Archive » Europe » South African national needs avdvice re:Irish citizenship by naturalisation
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| Jason Da Costa Junior Member Member # 464 | Posted October 26, 2001 09:48 AM Hi, next year March I intend looking for employment in Dublin. I am a Systems Administrator fluent in French and German . Irish naturalisation laws sound a bit confusing to me, according to Ireland. "An applicant for a certificate of naturalisation has to fulfil certain statutory conditions including having a total of five years residence in the State in the nine year period preceding the date of the application, the last year being a period of continuous residence."
Please help, the "nine year period" is the confusing part. Kind Regards Jason |
| Victoria Member Member # 6 | Posted October 26, 2001 11:04 AM Basically it means that you need to have been resident there for 5 years in the past 9 years, so if, for example, you spent 3 years there, went away for 2 years, and then were resident there for another 2 years, you would still be eligible. -------------------- Regards, Vicky Victoria Sharkey |
| Jason Da Costa Junior Member Member # 464 | Posted October 26, 2001 04:32 PM Thanks Vicky, I now understand. |
| howie Junior Member Member # 627 | Posted November 08, 2001 01:00 PM Hi,i have a EU passport do i need to still applie for ,working permits for the UK.Or any other visas i may require?[EMAIL]null[/EMAIL] |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted November 08, 2001 03:10 PM The problem is that very few people were granted the citizenship by naturalization (nobody came here in Ireland to settle until some years ago). If they do not change immigration laws, then aquiring Irish citizenship by naturalization is not automatical at all - it's granted as a privilege - I know ppl who live here for 7 years and still have not got it - 2 years after they have applied. Unfortunately I realised it a year after I came here - so I am thinking of moving to UK or getting PR in Australia. |
| Elfa Member Member # 5 | Posted November 08, 2001 03:35 PM Hi Howie If you hold a UK passport, this entitles you to work in any country in the European Union without a work permit. However, for most countries you will need a residence permit to reside in that country longer than a certain amount of time (i.e. 6 months). This can usually be done on the local government level. Hope this helps! Elfa -------------------- Elfa Kere, Consultant |
| Alex100 Junior Member Member # 1177 | Posted December 21, 2001 05:00 PM > If they do not change immigration laws, then aquiring > Irish citizenship by naturalization is not > automatical at all - it's granted as a > privilege > If a non-EU citizen has quietly lived and worked in Ireland for 5 years, and has never had criminal records, police tickets, etc, is that not sufficient for Irish citizenship grant? |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted December 21, 2001 06:00 PM quote: It's funny, but it is not. It just allows you to ask their minister of internal affairs (I am not sure how he is called) for a privilege of getting irish citizenship. It is often refused though browse Dail archives on www.gov.ie - there are many records of Dail members (parlament) asking about some people's naturalization status... kinda lobbying There are people who lived here for 9 years and even not trying to apply But if you marry somebody and after 3 years convince government that you are still married and blahblahblah, then it is much more likely to be successful naturalization This is not UK, ppl... |
| Alex100 Junior Member Member # 1177 | Posted December 21, 2001 06:30 PM > But if you marry somebody and after 3 years > convince government > I am already married:-) What about having a child born in Ireland? Would it help with the parents' naturalization process? |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted December 23, 2001 01:42 AM quote: theoretically yes, but there are too many nigerians and lithuanians doing this, so they are going to do something about it here, probably this free candy ends next year |
| kris Junior Member Member # 1193 | Posted December 23, 2001 06:38 PM This may be a stupid question, but I'm wondering why so many SA's are leaving their home country? Is it for economic reasons, political? I have got to meet a couple of SA's who say that that lived in much bigger houses and had quite nice lifestyles, but now they are living in UK council estates. I'm not sure I understand this. |
| Alex100 Junior Member Member # 1177 | Posted December 23, 2001 10:48 PM Sorry, who is "SA"? |
| Alex100 Junior Member Member # 1177 | Posted December 23, 2001 10:49 PM OK, I just realized SA = South African. |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted December 24, 2001 11:58 AM quote: Whites leave because blacks push them out. SA is ruled by blacks now |
| Victoria Member Member # 6 | Posted December 27, 2001 04:58 PM I think that comments are this are unhelpful, and uninformed, and workpermit.com would prefer that members refrain from expressing such opinions in this forum. This is obviously not the opinion of workpermit.com. -------------------- Regards, Vicky Victoria Sharkey |
| Jason Da Costa Junior Member Member # 464 | Posted January 02, 2002 12:50 AM I am most disgusted by Witt's remark. The playing field is in the process of being levelled. Previously disadvantaged non-whites are given the opportunity to work in highly skilled technical positions. Yes I agree that "Affirmative Action" or more to the point "Positive discrimination" as the french calls it has had a few hiccups but hey we have started trying, Rome was not built in a day. It will take many years before SA's labour force's playing field will be equalised. I can't comment on the council houses, but my reasons for immigration are personal, I have strong european ties linguistic and ancesteral. By the way I am a "Cape Couloured"(mixed descent). As South Africans we can draw up an infinite list of why SA's problems are causing people to immigrate eg. from the 1652 Dutch occupation, 1820 British settlers right up to Apartheid and post Apartheid, but that will get us nowhere. What happened in the past is history and we need to work toward the future. I know of countless people who have left SA to increase their skills and reinvested their knowledge on return. I have yet to see a country undergoing democratic change doing it perfectly first time round. |
| David Stockwell Junior Member Member # 1318 | Posted January 02, 2002 02:42 PM I am a South African citizen, living in Cape Town. My motivation for seeking to emigrate, or obtain an intermediary level of residence is simple: Dense urban lifestyles are a trade off against cosmopolitan, culturally rich opportunities. South Africa's standard of living is ostensibly higher, but the arts, for example, are routinely underfunded in favour of education and housing concerns. I would forego creature comforts if they were replaced by opportunities to be immersed in a metropolis which respects and supports Dance... Hope this enlightens? [ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: David Stockwell ] |
| Witt Member Member # 567 | Posted January 03, 2002 01:03 PM quote: Probably all the South Africans whom I met here happened to be racists (at least a dozen of them worked with me in IT-related company in Ireland, plus their friends/families etc.) I simply quoted them - I do not care much... Sorry for that. One more thing - almost all of them were from outside Cape Town area. |
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