FLR(M) Extension Visa application for married spouse: Are marriage certificates etc required again?

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 am

We are applying for my wife and my stepson's extension visa. My stepson started secondary school in U.K after joining me and he passed the GCSE English (Grade C). Does that count towards proven '..English language abilities' criteria if he submits the board certificate in his application? I will be grateful for any help. Many thanks.

Post by **CR001** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:51 pm

No it does not.

If he is over 18, he needs to do the English test.

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:04 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:51 pm
No it does not.

If he is over 18, he needs to do the English test.

Thank you, I thought so! So silly to take the A2 test when he's taken a much higher 'proven' test. Another money making ploy by the UK govt.

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Please I need confirmation before my application in August 2021 to Extend my wife's visa. Will we be asked in the online application for our marriage certificates etc? It's not a problem to submit but we're being careful to follow exactly the application rules (to avoid over submitting supporting documentation having negative/unfavourable result). We satisfy all requirements for Extension Visa but from our painful experience with initial visa process, we want to avoid every possible mistakes.

Korekt · Post by **Korekt** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:36 pm

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pm
Will we be asked in the online application for our marriage certificates etc?

If married, yes.

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:07 pm

Korekt wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:36 pm

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pm
Will we be asked in the online application for our marriage certificates etc?
If married, yes.

Thanks Korekt. So we again submit the same marriage certs & docs on which my wife got the spouse visa to join me in UK?

Waiting limited · Post by **Waiting limited** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:27 pm

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:07 pm

Korekt wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:36 pm

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pm
Will we be asked in the online application for our marriage certificates etc?
If married, yes.
Thanks Korekt. So we again submit the same marriage certs & docs on which my wife got the spouse visa to join me in UK?

yes submit marriage certificate with translation ( if it was not written in English). Also she needs to pass English exam A2, and submit her result certificate

all the best

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:32 pm

Waiting limited wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:27 pm

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:07 pm

Korekt wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:36 pm

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pm
Will we be asked in the online application for our marriage certificates etc?
If married, yes.
Thanks Korekt. So we again submit the same marriage certs & docs on which my wife got the spouse visa to join me in UK?
yes submit marriage certificate with translation ( if it was not written in English). Also she needs to pass English exam A2, and submit her result certificate

all the best

Many thanks Waiting limited. That's helpful.

Post by **vinny** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:34 am

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:04 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:51 pm
No it does not.

If he is over 18, he needs to do the English test.
Thank you, I thought so! So silly to take the A2 test when he's taken a much higher 'proven' test. Another money making ploy by the UK govt.

There’s no English language requirement for children’s extensions (even when over 18). However, he may require an approved B1 test for ILR under 298(vii) and for naturalisation.

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:32 pm

vinny wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:34 am

bri52ol wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:04 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:51 pm
No it does not.

If he is over 18, he needs to do the English test.
Thank you, I thought so! So silly to take the A2 test when he's taken a much higher 'proven' test. Another money making ploy by the UK govt.
There’s no English language requirement for children’s extensions (even when over 18). However, he may require an approved B1 test for ILR under 298(vii) and for naturalisation.

Thanks vinny. My wife and step-son are both taking A2 test this Sat via British Council - they didn't say anything about him not requiring to take test! He has just finished A Levels and been offered one year contract by his school to tutor first year A level students deemed requiring extra assistance in Economics and Maths from coming Sept! £150 down the drain...

Post by **vinny** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:13 am

Ask for son’s refund?

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:22 pm

vinny wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:13 am
Ask for son’s refund?

Unlikely as British Council only gives refund on cancellation at least 5 weeks!! before test date .Any ideas how to go about getting refund? i.e. what rules/regulation to quote

Post by **vinny** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:21 am

I think an approved test provider should have the expertise to know that there is no requirement from the Home Office for children of all ages to take any A2 English Language test. It’s only a requirement for a partner’s or parent’s extension under Appendix FM.

I think applicants have a legitimate expectation to rely on an approved test provider’s expert knowledge of a test’s purpose.

I think the test provider failed to provide reasonable skill and care under the Consumer Rights Act if they permit an applicant to book or take an unnecessary test. If they sell a product that serves no purpose, then they may also be miss-selling it.

Good luck and do please let us know what happens.

bri52ol · Post by **bri52ol** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:47 am

vinny wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:21 am
I think an approved test provider should have the expertise to know that there is no requirement from the Home Office for children of all ages to take any A2 English Language test. It’s only a requirement for a partner’s or parent’s extension under Appendix FM.

I think applicants have a legitimate expectation to rely on an approved test provider’s expert knowledge of a test’s purpose.

I think the test provider failed to provide reasonable skill and care under the Consumer Rights Act if they permit an applicant to book or take an unnecessary test. If they sell a product that serves no purpose, then they may also be miss-selling it.

Good luck and do please let us know what happens.

Thanks again vinny. Your assertions seems valid. We will contact B.Council using your reasoning and take it further with Trading Standards office. Will keep you updated.

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