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Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Petaltop » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:20 pm

Casa wrote:Sadly Amber was a victim of unpleasant PMs (as all mods often are), but in one in particular a forum member accused both her and myself of working for Boris Johnson and that if she didn't say that the leave vote was fixed she would be reported to the electoral commission! Bonkers I know, but cyber bullying none-the-less. She simply had enough.
Amber has helped a great many members with advice, so our loss. :(
So sorry that happened to you Amber. There are some evil people in this world and only a evil person would do that.

I hope this site gave their details to the police so that they can be traced. Even libraries have cctv.


Casa wrote:My father always reminded me never to discuss religion and politics ...oh and the Great Pumpkin :|
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Ours was, "politics and money". :D

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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Casa » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:25 pm

I'm not sure that Amber is accessing posts any longer but I'm sure she will appreciate your kind thoughts if she is.

Parents...full of wisdom eh? :wink:
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by secret.simon » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:36 pm

I hope that after passions have calmed down, that Amber would resume her role. She has been helpful to many on these forums.
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by RRSB2012 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:28 am

There is nothing wrong in having a strong opinion on any particular issue. What is needed is maturity and tolerance to value the difference of opinion.
I am glad that I have the opportunity of listening to different opinions and view points and thankful to everyone who raises them. It gives me an opportunity to think differently then my own mental model.

It is sad that a person who contributed over 16,000 posts had left the forum, what a loss caused by intolerance. Is it not possible to block people involved in hate speech? .... I am sure moderators must have tried whatever could have been possible.

I wish for and look forward to healthy discussions (with tolerance ofcourse).
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Pregnant woman beaten and had her fetus destroyed by a thug

Post by Obie » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:57 pm

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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by noajthan » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:07 pm

As per my understanding of media reports, the unfortunate victim (mother) was not killed.
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Obie » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:13 pm

noajthan wrote:As per my understanding of media reports, the unfortunate victim (mother) was not killed.
Thanks for that. Correctly stated that the victim survived, only her fetus was destroyed.
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Obie » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:01 pm

Number of European Embassy report rise in attacks on their citizens.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... rexit-vote
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Obie » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:58 pm

British Student stabbed in the neck for speaking Polish.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... id-samsung
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by vinny » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:38 am

Telegraph wrote:Amber Rudd used her speech at the Conservative Party conference to warn that foreign workers should not be able to "take the jobs that British people should do".

She revealed that companies could be forced to publish the proportion of "international" staff on their books in a move which would effectively "name and shame" businesses which are failing to take on British workers.
Is she implying that employing foreign people is somehow shameful?
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by vinny » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:54 am

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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by DFDS. » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:26 am

Fear and intimidation has always been the culture of British politics!
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Petaltop » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:40 am

DFDS. wrote:Fear and intimidation has always been the culture of British politics!
Aren't all governments like that? At least western governments aren't as bad as some of the third world governmernts.

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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by DFDS. » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:27 am

Petaltop wrote:
DFDS. wrote:Fear and intimidation has always been the culture of British politics!
Aren't all governments like that? At least western governments aren't as bad as some of the third world governmernts.
What do you mean when you say third world governments? Is the UK on a different plannet? How much of British history do you? Do your homework!
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Obie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:49 pm

When i hear Rudd and May talk about migrant like some form of disease, It makes me physically sick, in the literal sense.

These people are appealing to the worst common denominator and dregs of British society, they Make British Citizenship a symbol of derision.

A very decent friend of mine was so appalled, that he asked me to proceed with the process of revoking his citizenship, as he can no longer allow himself to be guilty by association. That Rudd and May don't speak in his name, and by holding British Passport and going around Europe, he will be seen as a citizen of that nation that talk about immigrant is such derogatory way.

Things have really gone bad. I went to a local department store in Harlow the other day, and saw Polish Police officers guarding the street to protect their citizens, as the UK government has lost control of the environment they incited over many years, since Michael Howard in 2005. Now it has exploded in their face.
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Wanderer » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:15 pm

Reminds me of a story when I worked in the Nuclear industry, top secret, but one of the stations was built on a former RAF WW2 pilot training base.

One of the Reactor Controllers refused to work in the vicinity of one particular reactor, since he said he'd been spooked by the ghost of a Polish airman, half his body below ground level since the old runway was 3 feet underneath the newer access road.

I asked him how did he know the ghost was Polish since he didn't know or understand Polish. He couldn't answer, probably making stuff up....
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by noajthan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:24 pm

Wanderer wrote:Reminds me of a story when I worked in the Nuclear industry, top secret, but one of the stations was built on a former RAF WW2 pilot training base.

One of the Reactor Controllers refused to work in the vicinity of one particular reactor, since he said he'd been spooked by the ghost of a Polish airman, half his body below ground level since the old runway was 3 feet underneath the newer access road.

I asked him how did he know the ghost was Polish since he didn't know or understand Polish. He couldn't answer, probably making stuff up....
Polish uniform?
Then again it always puzzles me why ghosts wear clothes (or a uniform) - are the clothes dead too?
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Obie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:37 pm

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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Casa » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:02 pm

Much depends on which news report. Way back in 2014 before Brexit police from 8 European countries (including Poland) were drafted into the UK to assist with apprehending foreign criminals. We shouldn't blame everything on hate crimes and the referendum.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... inals.html

In Harlow, it's reported that the Polish police officers have been working to help police to engage with “members of the Polish community who do not speak English as their first language" and to meet and greet members of the community. They are unable to investigate crime or make any arrests and have not been brought in to protect Polish citizens.
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Re: Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

Post by Obie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:09 pm

The problem with Harlow is not interpretation, it appears to be hate.

I am inclined to agree with the Huffington post and the labour MP on what is happening. The Mail will sugat coat things.

They have a vested interest in doing so , as they appear to be the instigator for it all.

If you get to visit Harlow, you will notice these officers patrolling the area. There purpose is to reassure the local community.
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