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Baby for a EU citizen

Post by drcalm » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:31 pm

Hi,
Myself (EEA dependent) and my wife (Italian resident) just had a baby, and we would like to apply for a visa for him.
Not sure what's the right route to take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you

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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by LilyLalilu » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:57 pm

What's the nationality of the baby?
All information given is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by noajthan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:11 pm

drcalm wrote:Hi,
Myself (EEA dependent) and my wife (Italian resident) just had a baby, and we would like to apply for a visa for him.
Not sure what's the right route to take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
Child born where :?:
Immigration status of parents; (already settled / with PR or not) :?:
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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by ohara » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:44 am

A visa for which country?

The child should have inherited Italian citizenship through the mother at birth, and possibly your own citizenship depending on the nationality laws in that country.

If either of you had settled status (PR or ILR) in the UK before the child was born, it will have automatically acquired British citizenship by birth too (but if not, it is entitled to register once one of the parents is settled).

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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by Obie » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:35 pm

ohara wrote:A visa for which country?

The child should have inherited Italian citizenship through the mother at birth, and possibly your own citizenship depending on the nationality laws in that country.

If either of you had settled status (PR or ILR) in the UK before the child was born, it will have automatically acquired British citizenship by birth too (but if not, it is entitled to register once one of the parents is settled).
Child cannot acquire Italian Citizen if mother is not an Italian herself.

from the post, it seems that the mother is resident only.
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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by Richard W » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:19 pm

Obie wrote:from the post, it seems that the mother is resident only.
A good application of logic, but actually Mrs Calm is Italian, and is a worker working in the UK.

So, if the baby is Italian, his best 'visa' is an Italian passport and if he isn't, the best long term visa for him is a residence card. In the short term, a long form birth certificate ought to get him around most of Europe if he can reach a border, but might not be valid for Italy.

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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by noajthan » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:51 pm

drcalm wrote:Hi,
Myself (EEA dependent) and my wife (Italian resident) just had a baby, and we would like to apply for a visa for him.
Not sure what's the right route to take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
@drcalm,

It is unclear what you are actually looking for by asking about a 'visa'.

It is understood that your wife is a dual national (French & Italian); you are Israeli.
It seems you do not yet have settled status in UK but you do possess a UK RC dating from March 2014.

What is your quest?
Is it a route to citizenship / passport for your child?
If so, then for which citizenship(s): French, Italian, Israeli, British?
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Re: Baby for a EU citizen

Post by avjones » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:42 pm

noajthan wrote: not yet have settled status in UK but you do possess a UK RC dating from March 2014.

What is your quest?
Is it a route to citizenship / passport for your child?
If so, then for which citizenship(s): French, Italian, Israeli, British?
Or all of the above?

That would be a fair old amount of form-filling.

Incidentally, Israeli passports are unusual in that when they expire, sometimes they are extended (in the same document) rather than being renewed altogether. A gentleman of my acquaintance got stuck with a 12 year old ginger grinning schoolboy in his Israeli passport until he was 27.
I am not, and cannot, offer legal advice to particular people. I can only discuss general areas of immigration law.

People should always consider obtaining professional advice about their own particular circumstances.

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