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Post by sunshine11 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:43 pm

badluck wrote:sunshine can u please tell me dat did u received da page wch has heading of ONE STOP WARNING-STATMENT OF ADDITONAL GROUND
dis is da last page of uk border agency if yes den let me know. its nt on da appeal one
First sorry for delay

No this is not last page, one more page with this one.

With this form they sent me appeal form as well.

One thing more i read my refusal 2-3 times but i can't fine any ban.

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Post by sunshine11 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:44 pm

badluck wrote:sunshine can u please tell me dat did u received da page wch has heading of ONE STOP WARNING-STATMENT OF ADDITONAL GROUND
dis is da last page of uk border agency if yes den let me know. its nt on da appeal one
First sorry for delay

No this is not last page, one more page with this one.

With this form they sent me appeal form as well.

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Post by sunshine11 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:45 pm

badluck wrote:sunshine can u please tell me dat did u received da page wch has heading of ONE STOP WARNING-STATMENT OF ADDITONAL GROUND
dis is da last page of uk border agency if yes den let me know. its nt on da appeal one
First sorry for delay

No this is not last page, one more page with this one.

With this form they sent me appeal form as well.

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Post by badluck » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:35 pm

whats on dat one

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Post by sunshine11 » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:04 pm

badluck wrote:whats on dat one
On dat, they tell me if I want to apply for new application then I have to pay fee but at the end they said I need visa to apply any new application.

My visa already run out so that page is not important for me.

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Post by sunshine11 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:30 pm

Hello everyone
I read all the forums and I am sure one thing that NO one sure what to do???

Everyone try to scare other people.

Now we get refusal and legal advisor get chance to earn money. Every one say its very good chance to win appeal but no one telllll how???

I advice to all CCl students, if they will go for appeal. please ask their legal advisor how they win the appeal. They just want to earn more money.

When I ask this question to them then they said they will fight in court that their documents are correct.

I know they can't win on this point. All my friend please be aware and don't go for appeal if they want to fight in court on this base.

PLEASE FIND some thing else to stand in court.

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Post by aaabc123 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:51 pm

do u know that a number of peoples got visa on the same documents on which HO OBJECTS IN OUR CASE.
THIS IS GOOD GROUND FOR APPEAL
SOLICTORS IN COURT MAY REQUEST TO JUDGE TO ORDER HOME OFFICE TO PRODUCE SIX MONTH OLD RECORD AND THAN THEY WILL SEE HOW MANY VISAS GRANTED ON THE SAME DIPLOMA
HOW HO NOW ASK THAT ITS NOT GENUINE
ITS HO FAULT
JUDGE ISSUE U VISA OR CANCELL ALL VISA GRANTED ON THE SAME DIPLOMA

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Post by sunshine11 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:07 pm

aaabc123 wrote:do u know that a number of peoples got visa on the same documents on which HO OBJECTS IN OUR CASE.
THIS IS GOOD GROUND FOR APPEAL
SOLICTORS IN COURT MAY REQUEST TO JUDGE TO ORDER HOME OFFICE TO PRODUCE SIX MONTH OLD RECORD AND THAN THEY WILL SEE HOW MANY VISAS GRANTED ON THE SAME DIPLOMA
HOW HO NOW ASK THAT ITS NOT GENUINE
ITS HO FAULT
JUDGE ISSUE U VISA OR CANCELL ALL VISA GRANTED ON THE SAME DIPLOMA
thanks for your reply

HO will say that was mistake. we din't verify any doc but we can't continue this mistake. this is the reason we refuse every one

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Post by aaabc123 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:15 pm

today my friend get refusal on same ground but there was one year ban bcz of deception
is it in ur case

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Post by sunshine11 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:35 pm

aaabc123 wrote:today my friend get refusal on same ground but there was one year ban bcz of deception
is it in ur case
No in ban in my case
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Post by aaabc123 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:50 pm

hv u apply for appeal or not yet

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Post by sunshine11 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:08 pm

aaabc123 wrote:hv u apply for appeal or not yet
Not yest I will speak to legal advisor then i will let you know..

what you thing aaabc123 I have to apply for appeak or not??

How much chance to win appeal??

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Post by salam123 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:20 am

sunshine11 wrote:
aaabc123 wrote:hv u apply for appeal or not yet
Not yest I will speak to legal advisor then i will let you know..

what you thing aaabc123 I have to apply for appeak or not??

How much chance to win appeal??
there is actually no chance to win.....

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Post by sunshine11 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:03 pm

salam123 wrote:
sunshine11 wrote:
aaabc123 wrote:hv u apply for appeal or not yet
Not yest I will speak to legal advisor then i will let you know..

what you thing aaabc123 I have to apply for appeak or not??

How much chance to win appeal??
there is actually no chance to win.....
salam123 thanks for your advice......

Any one know how long it will take to get court date??

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Post by fazal » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:43 pm

well basically HO said that the documents you provided were not genuine and secoundly they say that ccl never offered any legitimate course of PGD IT or PGD BM or anything like they never taught anyone these courses so if a person has applied on the basis of these courses is not eligible to get a psw visa aand can leave the country now or make an appeal against the decision .....
This is it sunshine if you want to make an appeal can you justify or prove that ccl really offered that course if you prove this than there is nothing else to prove you will get the visa 100%....
You have only 5 to 10 days to make an appeal other wise i dont know how long you can stay here i heard 28days which maybe right if anyone knows can tell us ....
so this is it if you want to appeal you have to prove they offered PGD courses so thats all folks any info from your advisor please share bcoz a frnd of mine got refused today on same basis i told you so nothing much to do now ...all you can do is try but with [b]evidence[/b]

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Post by fazal » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:55 pm

That was a really big 3 page reply from HO they repeatedly used the word deception and now he is on a one year ban or 5 yr or 10 yr you all know how the ban works .... what i was thinking is when the 1 yr ban ends can he come back to uk on work permit or hsmp visa or student again like is that possible or is it just spouse or as a dependent ....let me know urgently plus after reading HO letter its really scary mates i hope i could put all the text here but how its all A4 ....anyone intrested give me a hint

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Post by Diokpa » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:46 pm

fazal wrote:That was a really big 3 page reply from HO they repeatedly used the word deception and now he is on a one year ban or 5 yr or 10 yr you all know how the ban works .... what i was thinking is when the 1 yr ban ends can he come back to uk on work permit or hsmp visa or student again like is that possible or is it just spouse or as a dependent ....let me know urgently plus after reading HO letter its really scary mates i hope i could put all the text here but how its all A4 ....anyone intrested give me a hint
Any issue of deception does hinder your chances for future visas, all you need to do is luck when next you apply as you have tainted your immigration record with that issue. Good Luck.
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Post by fazal » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:04 am

at this time when the application is still under consideration and no decision has been made can a person withdraw his application from HO ...if yes how cheers

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Post by sunshine11 » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:44 pm

fazal wrote:at this time when the application is still under consideration and no decision has been made can a person withdraw his application from HO ...if yes how cheers
Hi Fazal
sorry for late reply. yes I think we can prove that PGD is right and students study in college. I just want to tell you honestly that student was studing in this corese.

I know only 40-50 student was studying their but 500 students apply for PSW.

Insted of sorting out 40-50 students they resfuse all of them. I know home office ban for 1 year but after 1 year its very difficult to geting visa.

When you will apply for visa after 1 year. They will check your previous record (this person provide fake doc) and they will not give visa and they will find some excuse to reject the visa.

I will go for appeal, I am not saying I will win but I will fight.

If you check college website college still offering same course.

SECOND if this college was not offering this course then no one willing to buying fake papers. people only provideing fake paper when actual course exist in college.

No one stupid that they provide fake doc without college offering that course.

If any one trying to withdraw their applictaion now they will not let any one to withdraw their appliaction.

One of my friend tried this but case worker refuse to do this.

If any one know any update then please let me know.

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Post by fazal » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:04 pm

okay so havent you applied for an appeal they only give 5 to 10 days i have browsed the website but havent seen the PGD courses there can you send a link and have you spoken to a lawyer what did he told you what are the strong points of your application you can also email me hotncrispy@hotmail.com.....i am asking for my friend actually he is worried so i hope you both r in the same boat he is confused stay in touch maybe we can sort things out together cheers

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Post by fazal » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:05 pm

[quote="sunshine11"][quote="fazal"]at this time when the application is still under consideration and no decision has been made can a person withdraw his application from HO ...if yes how cheers[/quote]

Hi Fazal
sorry for late reply. yes I think we can prove that PGD is right and students study in college. I just want to tell you honestly that student was studing in this corese.

I know only 40-50 student was studying their but 500 students apply for PSW.

Insted of sorting out 40-50 students they resfuse all of them. I know home office ban for 1 year but after 1 year its very difficult to geting visa.

When you will apply for visa after 1 year. They will check your previous record (this person provide fake doc) and they will not give visa and they will find some excuse to reject the visa.

I will go for appeal, I am not saying I will win but I will fight.

If you check college website college still offering same course.

SECOND if this college was not offering this course then no one willing to buying fake papers. people only provideing fake paper when actual course exist in college.

No one stupid that they provide fake doc without college offering that course.

If any one trying to withdraw their applictaion now they will not let any one to withdraw their appliaction.

One of my friend tried this but case worker refuse to do this.

If any one know any update then please let me know.[/quote]
okay so havent you applied for an appeal they only give 5 to 10 days i have browsed the website but havent seen the PGD courses there can you send a link and have you spoken to a lawyer what did he told you what are the strong points of your application you can also email me hotncrispy@hotmail.com.....i am asking for my friend actually he is worried so i hope you both r in the same boat he is confused stay in touch maybe we can sort things out together cheers

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Post by picolla » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:06 pm

hi sunshine

I am in same situation like you. I got my rejection on 22nd. But I am going to fight against this decesion. Because I wrote exam, attended classes. they haven't got right to refuse.
can you update about your situation.
thanks

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Post by sunshine11 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:12 pm

picolla wrote:hi sunshine

I am in same situation like you. I got my rejection on 22nd. But I am going to fight against this decesion. Because I wrote exam, attended classes. they haven't got right to refuse.
can you update about your situation.
thanks
Hi everyone
Hope everyone Okkkk. I will apply for appeal next week (yes i know i have 10 days for appeal).

Guys I don't mind to give you any infomration. I will keep giving you updates. If you want to send me email please me email on lovelyrishu2003@yahoo.com.

One thing more when any one go for appeal, You have to proof that this PGD was exist in college. If we prove this then its good chance to win.

This time we have to help each other.

One thing I don't understand that they ban for some students and some students don't have any Ban.

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CCL REFUSLALS

Post by badboy » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:11 pm

Hi guys...firstly i sympathise with everyone in this situation....I know its really hard to know that you cant travel...and its a stuck position and confusing one too... guys we can try to clear this mess by being UNITED...exchange information and expereinces...Help those who needs us and hopefull we will get some help back too...

An OIC Level-3 barrister can do appeals...please dont get trapped by a dodgy solicitor... My email address is sunyxx009@hotmail.co.uk....

I am awaiting decision on my PSW that i applied in the last week of Oct... but obviously i am not very positive in terms of the outcome of my decison..so just waiting...but i would like to be prepared to fight....so please help eachother and lets help friends in a similar situation....

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Post by Diokpa » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:28 pm

badboy wrote:Hi guys...firstly i sympathise with everyone in this situation....I know its really hard to know that you cant travel...and its a stuck position and confusing one too... guys we can try to clear this mess by being UNITED...exchange information and expereinces...Help those who needs us and hopefull we will get some help back too...

An OIC Level-3 barrister can do appeals...please dont get trapped by a dodgy solicitor... My email address is sunyxx009@hotmail.co.uk....

I am awaiting decision on my PSW that i applied in the last week of Oct... but obviously i am not very positive in terms of the outcome of my decison..so just waiting...but i would like to be prepared to fight....so please help eachother and lets help friends in a similar situation....

It's not a matter of fighting, it's the large scale fraud and deception involved that will hinder the success of most of the 'students' who applied through CCL. For the genuine students, I feel for you but it's going to be a tough one as the administrators of your college put you in this mess. If you bought the qualification and you are advocating for a full blown out case to prove your 'supposed' innocence, then I really don't know what to say to you but don't let nemesis catch up with you.
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