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Post by candyshop » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:32 am

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salam123 wrote:
Frontier Mole wrote:Salam123 & bex etc are all false identities mostly from the same person! More than likely to be the same idiot as EliteDuck & ElitePig..... so looking for support from those posters is not going to help you.

As for an appeal, you can not win as those that ran the college have stated that the PGD's were false and not a single student was awarded a certificate based on study. They have categorically stated that the college did not offer a course of study for the PGD's. It therefore leads to the simple conclusion that the PGD is not a qualification and therefore can not be awarded the points under PBS. End of really.

What ever you thought you studied or were examined on is irrelevant as it is clear that no matter the study or the exam result an award would have been granted. The qualification is not a qualification and is meaningless as so is any claim to achieve the qualification through study.

I think your legal rep's are scamming you as much as CCL. They know under PBS it is a straight case of YES or NO in the qualification box. No recognised qualification then no points. It is not about arguing if you were a student or not. The only argument is if it is a recognised qualification. So who is the awarding body - CCL - will they be able to come to court and state the qualification is real - that would be a NO.
07787794245.....the number you have dialed can not accept this call.

F**kin looser. go and f**kin get the life b*****d.

HI

fm white elite big fat pig of the britain..........how r u?

which facing home office u work meet me at any time in this number...........this number is only open for u.............

07787794245............................

i will wait for ur call............
salam123 wrote:which facing home office u work meet me at any time in this number...........this number is only open for u.............
Is there any need for bad language salam123?

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Post by elitedog » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:42 pm

candyshop wrote:
PaperPusher wrote:
salam123 wrote:
Frontier Mole wrote:Salam123 & bex etc are all false identities mostly from the same person! More than likely to be the same idiot as EliteDuck & ElitePig..... so looking for support from those posters is not going to help you.

As for an appeal, you can not win as those that ran the college have stated that the PGD's were false and not a single student was awarded a certificate based on study. They have categorically stated that the college did not offer a course of study for the PGD's. It therefore leads to the simple conclusion that the PGD is not a qualification and therefore can not be awarded the points under PBS. End of really.

What ever you thought you studied or were examined on is irrelevant as it is clear that no matter the study or the exam result an award would have been granted. The qualification is not a qualification and is meaningless as so is any claim to achieve the qualification through study.

I think your legal rep's are scamming you as much as CCL. They know under PBS it is a straight case of YES or NO in the qualification box. No recognised qualification then no points. It is not about arguing if you were a student or not. The only argument is if it is a recognised qualification. So who is the awarding body - CCL - will they be able to come to court and state the qualification is real - that would be a NO.
07787794245.....the number you have dialed can not accept this call.

F**kin looser. go and f**kin get the life b*****d.

HI

fm white elite big fat pig of the britain..........how r u?

which facing home office u work meet me at any time in this number...........this number is only open for u.............

07787794245............................

i will wait for ur call............
salam123 wrote:which facing home office u work meet me at any time in this number...........this number is only open for u.............
Is there any need for bad language salam123?

Yes, There is definately need for bad language as this FM thinks he is gay partner of gordon brown and he can say what ever he wants

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Post by sunshine11 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:39 pm

Diokpa wrote:
sunshine11 wrote:
Diokpa wrote: Very true, I am sure you have it all worked out.
Yes Diokpa, I have all worked out.

I needed time and i got it to sort out some things.

Rest evey thing on our luck

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Post by mysterytale » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:29 pm

can anyone let me know please
is home office givising chance of appeal to all tire 1 refused student or only some

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Post by sunshine11 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:09 pm

Hi Everyone
As I promise I keep giving you update. I applied for appeal last week. Today i receive my court date. I will go in first week of March.

Will let you know what happen??

Pray for me pleaseeeee.

All CCL students please keep in touch..

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Post by aaabc123 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:18 pm

hi sunshie
be confident,God will help us all.
just make on thing clear,get all information before u appear in court about other ccl candiates appeals hearing
2ndly try to collect precedents of some similar courts decision
i will let you know any use information if i get about this

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Post by xoom » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:05 pm

Dear sunshine im having the same case as you have but i didnt have right of appeal as my visa is not expired yet.So plz inform me about the update of your decision for appeal coz im going to apply for extension after some days.Best of luck :) dear.

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Post by sunshine11 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:07 pm

xoom wrote:Dear sunshine im having the same case as you have but i didnt have right of appeal as my visa is not expired yet.So plz inform me about the update of your decision for appeal coz im going to apply for extension after some days.Best of luck :) dear.
HI Xoom
Please contact me on my mail id lovelyrishu2003@yahoo.com

Hello everyone
Just want to update you all. I heard that 2 students win the appeal.

I am not sure this is true or not but if its true then its very good.

Please don't fellllllll very good may be someone lie. Until we know the true we can't say any thing

If any one know any thing please let me know.

Thanks

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Post by introuble_like everyone » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:53 am

Hi everybody in this forum,
I am a new member joined today however i have been following everybody's comment quite closely on CCL students.It seems there is some light at the end of tunnel,i have recieved the evidence home office has against CCL and it does seem to be ver strong according to my solicitor it is just a couple of interview with staffs and also tyhe fact that tere were 2500 application in the course of 3 months,at least aren't as bad as i previously thought.So all the best to CCL appeals.

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Post by introuble_like everyone » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:54 am

correction--i mean't it doesn't seem to be very ...............strong

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Post by picolla » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:17 pm

first week of march on 4th. to see judge.
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Post by Frontier Mole » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:19 pm

introuble_like everyone wrote:Hi everybody in this forum,
I am a new member joined today however i have been following everybody's comment quite closely on CCL students.It seems there is some light at the end of tunnel,i have recieved the evidence home office has against CCL and it does seem to be ver strong according to my solicitor it is just a couple of interview with staffs and also tyhe fact that tere were 2500 application in the course of 3 months,at least aren't as bad as i previously thought.So all the best to CCL appeals.
You are having a laugh! The couple of interviews from the staff state that the PGD you no doubt bought , was a bogus qualification and no study or external accreditation was required.
As for the 2500 applications, of course that can easily be explained when the college can hold a maximum of 60 students. Even then that would be standing up.
If your lawyer thinks that is a good thing I wish you ever success with your appeal.
Glad you’re spending your money wisely on such a wonderful and intelligent legal representative.....

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Post by Vanadil » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:12 pm

Frontier Mole wrote: Glad you’re spending your money wisely on such a wonderful and intelligent legal representative.....
*Insert Greedy in place of above Text*

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Post by Diokpa » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:54 pm

Vanadil wrote:
Frontier Mole wrote: Glad you’re spending your money wisely on such a wonderful and intelligent legal representative.....
*Insert Greedy in place of above Text*
Exactly, the lawyer just cares about his fees. You don't have a chance with bogus qualifications. I wonder wht his arguements will be based on...let us know how it all pans out picolla.
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Post by picolla » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:37 am

Diokpa wrote: Exactly, the lawyer just cares about his fees. You don't have a chance with bogus qualifications. I wonder wht his arguements will be based on...let us know how it all pans out picolla.


I don't mind whether i m winning this or not. But i can't accept allegations put on me. My fight is against criminal convictions put on me not to stay here.

and you said laywer cares about fees. But i didn't ask lawyer whether he wins case or not. I just said that I am student of this college and luv luv

And you said bogus qualifications. for sure someone got bogus qualifications. not those genuine students.

Here in UK tens of thousands of colleges like CCL. Those colleges can invole in fradulents activities any time. That means all students are risk at those colleges. so whom do you blame.......obviouly govt. Because govt. let those culprit run the college giving all accreditation certificates and don't follow up with their activities. Even no criteria to set up college. Opening a college in UK is like as same as opening a grocery shop.

Ultimately victimes are students. Both parties , govt. and college benefit from students.

that is why fight is rationale

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Post by sunshine11 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:11 pm

Frontier Mole wrote:
introuble_like everyone wrote:Hi everybody in this forum,
I am a new member joined today however i have been following everybody's comment quite closely on CCL students.It seems there is some light at the end of tunnel,i have recieved the evidence home office has against CCL and it does seem to be ver strong according to my solicitor it is just a couple of interview with staffs and also tyhe fact that tere were 2500 application in the course of 3 months,at least aren't as bad as i previously thought.So all the best to CCL appeals.
You are having a laugh! The couple of interviews from the staff state that the PGD you no doubt bought , was a bogus qualification and no study or external accreditation was required.
As for the 2500 applications, of course that can easily be explained when the college can hold a maximum of 60 students. Even then that would be standing up.
If your lawyer thinks that is a good thing I wish you ever success with your appeal.
Glad you’re spending your money wisely on such a wonderful and intelligent legal representative.....
Hi Frontier Mole
When we will go for appeal we will not fight for 2500 students. we will ourself. May be college sell fake certi. but we was students their. we don't care what college do on our back..

At the moment don't know what to say but let see what will happen?

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Post by introuble_like everyone » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:58 pm

Hi Picolla,
All the best, please do update us with your experience.Be confident and do your research well.The lawyer should prepare you in any case.............
I would like to tell all the people in this forum who are criticising others of wrong doing,please ask this question to your own conscience and you will get your answer,as i believe nobody who has arrived in this country can claim that they haven't forged things at any point of time from the time they applied for the very first from their own country till today.
I know there are some very sadistic people who enjoy seeing other people suffer.We all know what lies in store for us so there isn't much point in spreading out rumours............

All the best to you sunshine........have faith,things can only get better from the situation that we are all in today

God Bless you all.

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Post by koolbone » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:03 pm

I would like to tell all the people in this forum who are criticising others of wrong doing,please ask this question to your own conscience and you will get your answer,as i believe nobody who has arrived in this country can claim that they haven't forged things at any point of time from the time they applied for the very first from their own country till today.
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What arrant nonsense. So, what you're implying is that because you forged documents at one time it's safe to assume that everyone else who has emigrated to the UK has forged documents as well. What a preposterous statement! I do wish Picolla all the best with her appeal but the statement you just made really grates on my nerves. Honest people still exist in this world for your information.
You also seem to be a religious person so answer me this: Does God support dishonesty and forgery?

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Post by PaperPusher » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:27 pm

introuble_like everyone wrote:Hi Picolla,
All the best, please do update us with your experience.Be confident and do your research well.The lawyer should prepare you in any case.............
I would like to tell all the people in this forum who are criticising others of wrong doing,please ask this question to your own conscience and you will get your answer,as i believe nobody who has arrived in this country can claim that they haven't forged things at any point of time from the time they applied for the very first from their own country till today.
I know there are some very sadistic people who enjoy seeing other people suffer.We all know what lies in store for us so there isn't much point in spreading out rumours............

All the best to you sunshine........have faith,things can only get better from the situation that we are all in today

God Bless you all.
I cannot talk for you, or your friends & family, but the people I know are honest. Perhaps it is who you mix with, or the way you have been brought up that leads you to believe everyone has committed fraud. In fact the majority of people who get visas are honest in my experience.

I will criticise fraud when I come accross it thank you very much, and my own conscience is clear.

The CCL scam has messed things up for any genuine students that actually did study there, and has made their hard work studying worth less than it would have been. Never mind the fact that genuine students may have had their applications refused. Who will be able to use that certificate now to get a job?

The people who have got involved with this scam may have hurt their countrymen and women who have done nothing to deserve it.

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Post by Diokpa » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:44 pm

introuble_like everyone wrote:Hi Picolla,
All the best, please do update us with your experience.Be confident and do your research well.The lawyer should prepare you in any case.............
I would like to tell all the people in this forum who are criticising others of wrong doing,please ask this question to your own conscience and you will get your answer,as i believe nobody who has arrived in this country can claim that they haven't forged things at any point of time from the time they applied for the very first from their own country till today.
I know there are some very sadistic people who enjoy seeing other people suffer.We all know what lies in store for us so there isn't much point in spreading out rumours............

All the best to you sunshine........have faith,things can only get better from the situation that we are all in today

God Bless you all.
So you have really lived a life full of lies and deceit to assume that no honest person exists. You can live a life of truth and make things work better for you, give it a try and start today!
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Post by picolla » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:27 pm

till some time ago, all students whether genuine or not genuine had been waiting for HO results about psw from ccl or whatever finger crossed.

till now it is clear that ccl students been refused in a mass and whoever still waiting going to be the same.

now everybody is waiting to hear something good who appealed.

In couple of weeks, this drama is going to be end as well.

Then CAMBRIDGE COLLEGE OF LEARNING will be history in line with Llyods college etc.

and one morning you wake up and see in newspaper or media , college being raided by HO for engaging in illegal activities.

Then this forum is going to be of hot discussion.

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Post by picolla » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:34 pm

Guys one more thing forgot to say

There is a new college established in the premises of CCL.

LONDON SCHOOL OF PROFESSIONAL STUDIES.

VERY FUNNY IN UK. HOW COME

COLLEGE BEING ESTABLISHED OVERNIGT.

MIGHT BE SAME PEOPLE WHO RUN CCL CHANGE THE NAME AND SITIING FOR PREYING STUDENTS OFFERING MBA, BBA, PGD.

BUT HO PEOPLE BLIND.

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Post by Frontier Mole » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:28 pm

This educational establishment, if it exists, is not registered with any of the required accreditation authorities so is unable to offer any recognised education.

Therefore any poor misguided fool who wishes to give them money for "education" will not achieve anything other than emptying their bank balance. This is NOT another CCL waiting to happen.

The same limited company name was used in the late nineties but was struck off for not submitting accounts

UKBA is not as blind as it used to be - we got better spec's now!

And we got rid of the guide dog long ago - in joke - :lol:

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Post by Diokpa » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:30 pm

picolla wrote:Guys one more thing forgot to say

There is a new college established in the premises of CCL.

LONDON SCHOOL OF PROFESSIONAL STUDIES.

VERY FUNNY IN UK. HOW COME

COLLEGE BEING ESTABLISHED OVERNIGT.

MIGHT BE SAME PEOPLE WHO RUN CCL CHANGE THE NAME AND SITIING FOR PREYING STUDENTS OFFERING MBA, BBA, PGD.

BUT HO PEOPLE BLIND.
They obviously won't be able to bring in foreign students anymore which is where they make a bulk of their money, the only people they will be deceiving are those who want to take that short-cut and probably didn't go to the original university for which they were granted visa to study with in the first place!
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Post by picolla » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:32 pm

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  • quote="Frontier Mole"]This educational establishment, if it exists, is not registered with any of the required accreditation authorities so is unable to offer any recognised education.

    Therefore any poor misguided fool who wishes to give them money for "education" will not achieve anything other than emptying their bank balance. This is NOT another CCL waiting to happen.
bro

as you said if not registered with any of the required accreditation authorities............unable to offer.......

But you know that ccl was registered with required accreditation and able to offer degree. but they engage in........you know.....

but my concern is requirement to set up a college.

whoever come from abroad to study here through this type of college they don't know anything about the college. In college prospectus you will see big campus, playground and landscape building....full of misinformation.

that's what i mean. In other countries like australia, america you won't find anything like this.

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