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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by krimurthy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:20 pm

I don't recommend this just wait for few more months how many points do you have.

You can't change the employer, if yes there is a cool off period of one year and in case if you want to stay there is no ILR eligibility.

Don't be desperate better things awaits you.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:21 pm

blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm
Guys need your advice:

Just spoke to the HR, he asked if I am willing to move to the UK on an ICT Tier 2 Long Term visa now after facing refusal for last 7 months. What should I do? I have 50 points, and have faced refusals since December.
Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
ICT is a different process so best to open your own topic and post rather than asking about tier 2 ICT in the tier 2 general rcos thread.
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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by voldy1990 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm

blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm
Guys need your advice:

Just spoke to the HR, he asked if I am willing to move to the UK on an ICT Tier 2 Long Term visa now after facing refusal for last 7 months. What should I do? I have 50 points, and have faced refusals since December.
Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
Hello, we can connect separately on this. But you need to weigh various pros and cons before you make a decision.

With 50 points you stand a decent chance to get through next or the subsequent month, but that is ofcourse a big gamble (and no one will be able to give you more certainty whether it happens or not at 50 points).

With ICT Visa you can keep extending till I think 5 years. But then you need to take a one year cool off compulsorily. If you leave the company or decide to switch at any given point in time during this period, there is a one year cool off in which you cannot work in UK. These considerations need to be weighed in with your personal aspirations and were you see yourself in these 5 years (as it is a long period of time).

Happy to connect on DM if you wish to discuss this further.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by amazingbabu » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:24 pm

Still no news for 55 :cry:

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by blitzkrieg333 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:25 pm

krimurthy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:20 pm
I don't recommend this just wait for few more months how many points do you have.

You can't change the employer, if yes there is a cool off period of one year and in case if you want to stay there is no ILR eligibility.

Don't be desperate better things awaits you.
I have 50 points.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:26 pm

voldy1990 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm
Guys need your advice:

Just spoke to the HR, he asked if I am willing to move to the UK on an ICT Tier 2 Long Term visa now after facing refusal for last 7 months. What should I do? I have 50 points, and have faced refusals since December.
Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
Hello, we can connect separately on this. But you need to weigh various pros and cons before you make a decision.

With 50 points you stand a decent chance to get through next or the subsequent month, but that is ofcourse a big gamble (and no one will be able to give you more certainty whether it happens or not at 50 points).

With ICT Visa you can keep extending till I think 5 years. But then you need to take a one year cool off compulsorily. If you leave the company or decide to switch at any given point in time during this period, there is a one year cool off in which you cannot work in UK. These considerations need to be weighed in with your personal aspirations and were you see yourself in these 5 years (as it is a long period of time).

Happy to connect on DM if you wish to discuss this further.
You don't have "DM" access.

Members are reminded to post in public so that all may benefit and all can offer advice any incorrect or dubious advice can be corrected.
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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by blitzkrieg333 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:27 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:21 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm
Guys need your advice:

Just spoke to the HR, he asked if I am willing to move to the UK on an ICT Tier 2 Long Term visa now after facing refusal for last 7 months. What should I do? I have 50 points, and have faced refusals since December.
Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
ICT is a different process so best to open your own topic and post rather than asking about tier 2 ICT in the tier 2 general rcos thread.
Okay. Thanks.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by blitzkrieg333 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:32 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:26 pm
voldy1990 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm

Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
Hello, we can connect separately on this. But you need to weigh various pros and cons before you make a decision.

With 50 points you stand a decent chance to get through next or the subsequent month, but that is ofcourse a big gamble (and no one will be able to give you more certainty whether it happens or not at 50 points).

With ICT Visa you can keep extending till I think 5 years. But then you need to take a one year cool off compulsorily. If you leave the company or decide to switch at any given point in time during this period, there is a one year cool off in which you cannot work in UK. These considerations need to be weighed in with your personal aspirations and were you see yourself in these 5 years (as it is a long period of time).

Happy to connect on DM if you wish to discuss this further.
You don't have "DM" access.

Members are reminded to post in public so that all may benefit and all can offer advice any incorrect or dubious advice can be corrected.
Moderator, how can one get DM access?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by blitzkrieg333 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:33 pm

voldy1990 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:47 pm
Guys need your advice:

Just spoke to the HR, he asked if I am willing to move to the UK on an ICT Tier 2 Long Term visa now after facing refusal for last 7 months. What should I do? I have 50 points, and have faced refusals since December.
Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
Hello, we can connect separately on this. But you need to weigh various pros and cons before you make a decision.

With 50 points you stand a decent chance to get through next or the subsequent month, but that is ofcourse a big gamble (and no one will be able to give you more certainty whether it happens or not at 50 points).

With ICT Visa you can keep extending till I think 5 years. But then you need to take a one year cool off compulsorily. If you leave the company or decide to switch at any given point in time during this period, there is a one year cool off in which you cannot work in UK. These considerations need to be weighed in with your personal aspirations and were you see yourself in these 5 years (as it is a long period of time).

Happy to connect on DM if you wish to discuss this further.
Thanks for this. I will get in touch after you get DM access.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by voldy1990 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:42 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:26 pm
voldy1990 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:22 pm
blitzkrieg333 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:49 pm

Do you work for the same employer in your home country??

ICT does not lead to ILR after 5 years.
Yes, I work for the same employer in my home country.
I am thinking better spend 5 happy years in the UK than spend these dreadful months waiting for an RCoS. Still doubtful, please help!
Hello, we can connect separately on this. But you need to weigh various pros and cons before you make a decision.

With 50 points you stand a decent chance to get through next or the subsequent month, but that is ofcourse a big gamble (and no one will be able to give you more certainty whether it happens or not at 50 points).

With ICT Visa you can keep extending till I think 5 years. But then you need to take a one year cool off compulsorily. If you leave the company or decide to switch at any given point in time during this period, there is a one year cool off in which you cannot work in UK. These considerations need to be weighed in with your personal aspirations and were you see yourself in these 5 years (as it is a long period of time).

Happy to connect on DM if you wish to discuss this further.
You don't have "DM" access.

Members are reminded to post in public so that all may benefit and all can offer advice any incorrect or dubious advice can be corrected.
Apologies. Was not aware of this and thanks for reminder.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by supervic93 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm

I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm

supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
3. It is not permitted to work on a tourist visa in any capacity, paid or unpaid, or volunteering. Unless you qualify for a tier 5 visa, there is no other quick route
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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by thevocalmonk » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 pm

supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?
The minimum points for this month are not known yet. Essentially, the 55k-60k band is pending.

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?
Milkaround RLMT gives you 30 points (instead of 20) and you could get 21 points for your salary.

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?
You can't work on a tourist visa.

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?
You can attend a training program on a business visa, but not on a tourist visa. The business visa can allow you to remain in the UK for a maximum of 60 days

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
Possible, but I've no basis to answer this. You can encourage your employers to try for 1 more month in the light of recent changes to remove doctors and nurses from the Tier 2 cap

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:58 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm
supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
3. It is not permitted to work on a tourist visa in any capacity, paid or unpaid, or volunteering. Unless you qualify for a tier 5 visa, there is no other quick route
If your UK employer has an overseas office and has many overseas businesses, you can join their overseas offices first and start working as their overseas worker then continue to sort out your UK visa

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by supervic93 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:01 pm

thevocalmonk wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 pm
supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?
The minimum points for this month are not known yet. Essentially, the 55k-60k band is pending.

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?
Milkaround RLMT gives you 30 points (instead of 20) and you could get 21 points for your salary.

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?
You can't work on a tourist visa.

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?
You can attend a training program on a business visa, but not on a tourist visa. The business visa can allow you to remain in the UK for a maximum of 60 days

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
Possible, but I've no basis to answer this. You can encourage your employers to try for 1 more month in the light of recent changes to remove doctors and nurses from the Tier 2 cap
Thanks for your detailed answers. Could you elaborate on that business visa? I don't see that on the immigration website.

Also - to be clear, my employer has not mentioned rescinding the offer yet, I'm just wondering if this is something that commonly happens as a result of visa/immigration issues.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Pouf101 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:01 pm

supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?

Seems the 55s in the forum have not received either refusal or approval yet, so we should know tomorrow.

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?

51 and 56 are purely numbers to make it clear which bands of points were approved or otherwise - they don't necessarily represent a number of points you can get (eg. When the cut off was 51, everyone with 50 was refused, and everyone with 55 and above was approved. If it had been 50, that may have led to confusion as to whether the 50 band was approved or not.)

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?

Unless you are eligible for another visa route (ancestry etc.), no.

The 2nd part of your question is a big no. That is a violation of immigration law and both you and yout employer could be seriously penalised (eg. You not be granted entry to the country in the future / visa refused / monetary sanctions on employer).

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?

Assuming the training is paid, you cannot attend on a tourist visa.

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.

No clue. Depends on how valuable to the company, I would say (ie. are you easily replaceable or would it take significant resources and time to find someone else with your skill-set). They'll have to weight the benefits of waiting it out.
Answered directly in the text. Hope it helps.

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by supervic93 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:02 pm

UKTier2June2018 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:58 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm
supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
3. It is not permitted to work on a tourist visa in any capacity, paid or unpaid, or volunteering. Unless you qualify for a tier 5 visa, there is no other quick route
If your UK employer has an overseas office and has many overseas businesses, you can join their overseas offices first and start working as their overseas worker then continue to sort out your UK visa
Thanks for replying. If you do this though, does that mean you need to have a contract in that country? Does that also mean you're forced to work for years and then apply for an ICT Tier 2 visa? Or can they continue to apply for the Tier 2 General while you just work out of the other office?

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:04 pm

supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:01 pm
thevocalmonk wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 pm
supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?
The minimum points for this month are not known yet. Essentially, the 55k-60k band is pending.

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?
Milkaround RLMT gives you 30 points (instead of 20) and you could get 21 points for your salary.

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?
You can't work on a tourist visa.

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?
You can attend a training program on a business visa, but not on a tourist visa. The business visa can allow you to remain in the UK for a maximum of 60 days

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
Possible, but I've no basis to answer this. You can encourage your employers to try for 1 more month in the light of recent changes to remove doctors and nurses from the Tier 2 cap
Thanks for your detailed answers. Could you elaborate on that business visa? I don't see that on the immigration website.

Also - to be clear, my employer has not mentioned rescinding the offer yet, I'm just wondering if this is something that commonly happens as a result of visa/immigration issues.
I believe it is all down to separate negotiation with your employer - they can withdraw their offers if they so wish but I wouldn't say it is common until they have had a couple of tries

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by thevocalmonk » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:05 pm

supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:01 pm
thevocalmonk wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 pm
supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?
The minimum points for this month are not known yet. Essentially, the 55k-60k band is pending.

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?
Milkaround RLMT gives you 30 points (instead of 20) and you could get 21 points for your salary.

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?
You can't work on a tourist visa.

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?
You can attend a training program on a business visa, but not on a tourist visa. The business visa can allow you to remain in the UK for a maximum of 60 days

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
Possible, but I've no basis to answer this. You can encourage your employers to try for 1 more month in the light of recent changes to remove doctors and nurses from the Tier 2 cap
Thanks for your detailed answers. Could you elaborate on that business visa? I don't see that on the immigration website.

Also - to be clear, my employer has not mentioned rescinding the offer yet, I'm just wondering if this is something that commonly happens as a result of visa/immigration issues.

You're welcome. I just checked and the business visa has been replaced by the standard visitor visa.
https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa

However, we are going off topic with this discussion, and thus best to create a new topic in the relevant section. :)

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Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Post by UKTier2June2018 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:09 pm

supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:02 pm
UKTier2June2018 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:58 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 pm
supervic93 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:49 pm
I'm also in the disappointing position of having 50 points and having just been refused for this month. I have a few questions -

1. Does anyone know what the minimum points were this month? Was it 51 or 56?

2. How does one get the "extra" points that aren't multiples of 5? E.g. if the points are based off of RLMT and Salary, it seems like everything is a multiple of 5 (30,35,40,45,50,55... etc points). What makes one have 51 or 56?

3. I assume the answer is no, but does anyone know if there's another way to start working in the UK as a foreigner? E.g. some sort of temporary worker contract? If I have the right to travel to the UK as a tourist, would starting work while my visa was being processed be totally impossible?

4. For anyone who has a "training program" as part of their job that starts in the summer, is anyone worried about being able to attend this without the visa? Have you heard from your employers other ways to be able to attend? Can I attend the training on just a tourist visa?

5. Has anyone with 50 points had offers rescinded by their employers? I'm really really panicking about this possibility.
3. It is not permitted to work on a tourist visa in any capacity, paid or unpaid, or volunteering. Unless you qualify for a tier 5 visa, there is no other quick route
If your UK employer has an overseas office and has many overseas businesses, you can join their overseas offices first and start working as their overseas worker then continue to sort out your UK visa
Thanks for replying. If you do this though, does that mean you need to have a contract in that country? Does that also mean you're forced to work for years and then apply for an ICT Tier 2 visa? Or can they continue to apply for the Tier 2 General while you just work out of the other office?
yeah - you can get a contract in that country - bear in mind in many other countries the process is a lot shorter and the turnaround is a lot quicker (I worked in more than one Asian countries in the past where work visa is pretty much next day and you just go and fill up some forms and take some photos)
you are never forced to work for anyone - you can quit at any time if you feel like
also - you can apply for both ICT (bear in mind there are other conditions for ICT such as you need to have worked for that company for at least 12 months)
They can still apply for Tier 2 since Tier 2 is with a UK employer and it does not matter who else or which country you are currently working

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