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Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by batofgot » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:54 pm

good evening
got tier 2 visa after completing masters as software developer, started november last year but company undergoing changes thus given notice...please advise any umbrella companies offering tier 2 visa so can keep going until ILR.

a close relative of mine got a limited company with 100k company earnings but they are dealing with different engineering discipline...can they arrange a sponsor ship certificate that i could use...

many thank...

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by Frontier Mole » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:41 pm

One little wrinkle - Tier 2 does not allowing contracting... it is a licence breach and when discovered the licence is revoked and you will be curtailed.

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by batofgot » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:46 am

but any contracting i.e. fixed term contract work will be limited company and end client...contract may be found using agencies..as limited company will employ the candidate and they will perform duties on limited company behalf...client will pay limited company and limited company will in turn pay the candidate, employed as salaried, full time staff...

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by Frontier Mole » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:20 pm

batofgot wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:46 am
but any contracting i.e. fixed term contract work will be limited company and end client...contract may be found using agencies..as limited company will employ the candidate and they will perform duties on limited company behalf...client will pay limited company and limited company will in turn pay the candidate, employed as salaried, full time staff...

many thanks...
This is totally illegal

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by batofgot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:04 pm

what the way out then...spent huge amount of money to get tier 2 visa and job being uncertain...

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by Frontier Mole » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:07 pm

Get a real role with a proper sponsor... you have not spent any more than anyone else.... unless you bought the role as part of a dodgy scheme.

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by batofgot » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:07 am

a potential sponsor on the horizon...1 man band limited company offering sponsorship for threshold salary...but trades do not match completely...!!what to do...

are there umbrella companies around....

also how would this work:
uk-tier-2-employer-sponsored-visas/tier ... 69158.html


anxious...ready to seek professional advise if can be helpful...

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by Frontier Mole » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:40 am

If you use an umbrella contract company that is a breach of tier 2 sponsor duties and knowingly undertaking contracting work as a tier 2 migrant can lead to instant curtailment and an individual fine for working illegally.

Many people do it but as the post you highlighted says the Home Office is cracking down more and more on this abuse.

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by batofgot » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:09 pm

so what to do...
how long have before go home or find job...

do not think uk glamour is gonna last another 10 years...

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by Frontier Mole » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:22 pm

The one man band company - is that a firm job offer? I would take it and at least that buys you time....

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by batofgot » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:57 pm

hi
from having employment contract terminated and until expiry of curtailed leave to remain...what are the work rights...

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Re: Tier 2 visa vs job uncertainty

Post by CR001 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:06 pm

You cannot work if you are no longer employed by your tier 2 sponsor, not even the 20 hours per week. You can only start working again if you get a new sponsor and a new visa.
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switching from tier 2 to tier 4

Post by batofgot » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:34 pm

hi
it is possible to switch from tier 2 to tier 4...in -country
also if found employment when on tier 4 then would the clock re set to 0 or can continue on counting for tier 2 stay based on gap in employment..also, will it be possible to switch back to tier 2 later (hopefully continued length for ILR purposes)...

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Re: switching from tier 2 to tier 4

Post by batofgot » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:41 pm

..and will it be able to extend the t4 visa later...

lastly, ..will it be able to switch to tier 2 in country...

will i be able to work contract for 20 hours a week while on visa...

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Re: switching from tier 2 to tier 4

Post by batofgot » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:36 am

please anyone...

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Re: switching from tier 2 to tier 4

Post by CR001 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:39 am

https://www.gov.uk/tier-4-general-visa/ ... -this-visa

Note that you might have difficulty getting a tier 4 sponsor if your current visa has been curtailed.

As you appear to previously have switched to tier 2 from a student visa, you know that it is possible.
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Re: switching from tier 2 to tier 4

Post by batofgot » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:26 pm

ok so get tier 4 before curtailment peior has passed...

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Re: switching from tier 2 to tier 4

Post by CR001 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:41 pm

batofgot wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:26 pm
ok so get tier 4 before curtailment peior has passed...
Have your received curtailment and what is the date your visa has been curtailed to now??

As I said, you might not get a Tier 4 sponsor who will take the risk to issue you a CAS.
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