post study work visa / (Graduate Visa)

Hello, I'd like to ask you a question about the Post-study work visa. I am a foreign student on a PSW/Graduate VISA. I'm looking for work right now. However, in the worst-case scenario, if I am unable to obtain a skilled work visa from a company. I intend to get a MASTER'S Degree. So, if I acquire another Master's degree, will I be able to apply for the PSW again?

No, you cannot have it twice.

Thank you

vvd2212 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:35 am

I intend to get a MASTER'S Degree. So, if I acquire another Master's degree, will I be able to apply for the PSW again?

As far as I understand, you cannot do a second qualification if it is not a progression from your first and you are applying from inside the UK, I'm afraid. This is precisely to prevent eternal students who do masters after masters for the sake of staying in the UK.

Caseworker guidance page 49: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .0-ext.pdf

The academic progression requirement is in place to ensure that students are progressing academically if they wish to study a further course in the UK, and are not just seeking to extend their stay in the UK.

kamoe wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:59 pm

As far as I understand, you cannot do a second qualification if it is not a progression from your first and you are applying from inside the UK, I'm afraid.

You certainly can. I don't advise citing the caseworker guidance on its own without first looking at the immigration rules that the guidance supports.

Appendix Student, paragraph 14.3(c)(iv) specifically allows OP to apply in the UK to study another course at the same level as long as either (a) or (b) applies and is confirmed on the CAS:

(a) the new course of study is related to the applicant’s previous course of study (meaning that it is either connected to the previous course, part of the same subject group, or involves deeper specialisation); or
(b) the combination of the previous course of study and the new course of study support the applicant’s genuine career aspirations.
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See https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... ix-student

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:58 am

kamoe wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:59 pm

As far as I understand, you cannot do a second qualification if it is not a progression from your first and you are applying from inside the UK, I'm afraid.

You certainly can. I don't advise citing the caseworker guidance on its own without first looking at the immigration rules that the guidance supports.

Appendix Student, paragraph 14.3(c)(iv) specifically allows OP to apply in the UK to study another course at the same level as long as either (a) or (b) applies and is confirmed on the CAS:

(a) the new course of study is related to the applicant’s previous course of study (meaning that it is either connected to the previous course, part of the same subject group, or involves deeper specialisation); or
(b) the combination of the previous course of study and the new course of study support the applicant’s genuine career aspirations.
[...]


See https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... ix-student

I don't advise citing someone else's post without reading it in full. I did say "if it is not a progression from your first", which describes the conditions you cite. This does not seem to be the OP's case.

kamoe wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:45 pm

I don't advise citing someone else's post without reading it in full. I do say "if it is not a progression from your first", which describes the conditions you cite. This does not seem to be the OP's case.

My concern is just that the definition of "academic progress" is not that intuitive to the general reader. So a definitive "no" to OP doing further study that isn't "progression" could mislead them, because they would not know or assume that "progression" can sometimes illogically include study at the same level.

We don't know anything about the course content or their career aspirations, so they may or may not meet it.

Of course either way a second Graduate permission is a non-starter, so that may be the end of that for OP's study plans anyway! I suspect it probably is.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:07 pm

a definitive "no" to OP doing further study that isn't "progression" could mislead them

My post is not a definite no. That's only your interpretation of it, and it is incorrect. I simply posted what is a fact, and backed it with a reference to the source.

We don't know anything about the course content or their career aspirations, so they may or may not meet it.

I never said they don't meet the criteria, I said that it does not seem they meet it. Big difference.

It is really up to the OP to realise that if the only reason they do a second master's in the UK is so that they can extend their stay, then chances are they won't meet the criteria. If that's not the reason, then fair enough. We've given them enough elements to decide their options.

Hello, I have an another question. ON the psw will the person be allowed to apply/do an Qualified teacher status (QTS).

The only restriction placed on a Graduate’s ability to work is a prohibition on working as a professional sportsperson