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Immediate help for WHM applicant

Post by an_admirer2006 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:22 pm

hi all, could someone please help me on this...

my interview for WHM visa is next week and i am worried about the following :-

a) i still dont have my graduation degree or provisional mark sheet for college.... i only submitted 1st semester of college mark sheet. and people assume it when i say NO CHANCES of getting any alternate to that. University is NOT at all helpful in supplying any evidence of graduation and says i"ll get it only by next year..and wont give this statement in writing.

question is..does this weakens my chances of getting visa since on application form i mentioned that i am a graduate ?

i left my call center job three months back and now i am jobless, would this have a negative impact ?

any help would be greatly appreciated !

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Post by Dawie » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:36 pm

Educational qualifications have got nothing to with working holiday visas. I suggest you go to this website and review the guidence notes for working holiday makers:

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/
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appreciate ure quick response

Post by an_admirer2006 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:32 pm

dawie, i really appreciate ure quick response. though one part is still unanswered.
i left my recent job three months back, would it be a cause of worry ?

secondly, i am stressed about one more part....

at time of application, i put 4300 pounds as funds available while WHM trip,
and now in recent two-three mnths i spent 700 pounds due to unavoidsable expenses, would it be a financial crisis on my WHM visa interview ?

please help me on this as well, so that i can be relaxed at the interview.

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Re: appreciate ure quick response

Post by Dawie » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:08 am

an_admirer2006 wrote:dawie, i really appreciate ure quick response. though one part is still unanswered.
i left my recent job three months back, would it be a cause of worry ?

secondly, i am stressed about one more part....

at time of application, i put 4300 pounds as funds available while WHM trip,
and now in recent two-three mnths i spent 700 pounds due to unavoidsable expenses, would it be a financial crisis on my WHM visa interview ?

please help me on this as well, so that i can be relaxed at the interview.
Read the guidance notes at the link I have provided you with above. The answers to your questions are there.

It's really quite simple, if you meet the requirements, you will get the visa.
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Post by an_admirer2006 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:50 am

i have been researching on WHM from the past one year...!

the link above simply mentions general guidelines and if it was that easy, everyone would be on the visa to uk.

i have learnt every case is different & even though a person meets the general criteria...ECO would make his decision on one's circumstances.

for example, one of my friend was denied visa simply because he deposited 400 pounds near interview date...though he met general criteria but he couldnt explain about that bank entry of 400 pounds, secondly when he didnt have a job to return to, it was hard to convince the ECO that he would return back....so
i am looking for some advice regrdng similar circumstances !!!

thanks for your help dawie.

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Post by Dawie » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:00 am

It's my experience that people generally get denied visas because they don't bother reading the guidance notes and the requirements for a particular visa. I doubt the British Embassy seriously expects you to have a job waiting for you 2 years down the line when you return from the UK.

It also depends on your nationality. For example the British are stricter with citizens from poor countries like India and Mozambique than they are with those from relatively richer ones like South Africa and Australia. There's also anecdotal evidence that the colour of your skin can play an important factor in whether or not you get a visa with white applicants being favoured over non-white applicants. One only has to look at all the South Africans in the UK on working holiday visas. Whites only make up 12% of the population of South Africa, yet it appears that 99.9% of South Africans who come to the UK on working holiday visas are white.
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Post by Christophe » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:10 pm

Dawie wrote: There's also anecdotal evidence that the colour of your skin can play an important factor in whether or not you get a visa with white applicants being favoured over non-white applicants. One only has to look at all the South Africans in the UK on working holiday visas. Whites only make up 12% of the population of South Africa, yet it appears that 99.9% of South Africans who come to the UK on working holiday visas are white.
I'm sure that there is an element of truth in this. Yet, to be fair, the discrepancy no doubt also reflects the fact that - I imagine - relatively few black South Africans apply for a working holiday visa in the UK, owing no doubt to a variety of reasons, including financial, cultural and family-related. (There are black South Africans in the UK on working holiday visas, for I have known at least two.) It would be interesting, of course, to see figures about applications and rejections, with reasons, divided by colour of applicant, but such data are no doubt not recorded!

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Post by Dawie » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:18 pm

Christophe, I totally agree with you.

I don't doubt there non-white South Africans who have successfully applied for WHM visas, but they are few and far between. There are regular stories in the South African press about the perceived bias of the British Embassy towards non-white applicants. Especially when it comes to being interviewed by the British Embassy during the WHM visa application process. The main issue being that a disproportionate amount of non-white applicants get called up to the British Embassy in Pretoria for an interview (a costly process in itself taking into consideration that the person has to pay for an airticket and hotel room just for an interview), while it seems the majority of white applicants are rubber-stamped through the application process with little fuss or hassle and are very rarely called up to the embassy for an interview.

I would be very interested as well to see data about applications divided by race.
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Post by an_admirer2006 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:21 pm

" It also depends on your nationality. For example the British are stricter with citizens from poor countries like India and Mozambique than they are with those from relatively richer ones like South Africa and Australia. There's also anecdotal evidence that the colour of your skin can play an important factor in whether or not you get a visa with white applicants being favoured over non-white applicants." - Dawie.
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dawie, i agree with u fully & that makes a LOT of sense.
though two people might be from the same country as well, mother tongue & looks may play a great role in getting a visa as well.

i know a guy from southern india who was denied visa stating that he had deposited photostated docs and ECO has a doubt that those are counterfeit. Visa Financial services, which is a private firm who collects visa applications, told this guy that instead of depositing originals.. deposit photostat only. due to regional touch in english the poor guy got visa denied.
another girl was given visa straightaway, wherein she didnot deposited any bank statements at all but deposited cash on last moment and dint know a thing about UK , just becoz she was sweet & ECO was in a jolly mood.

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