In Laws Visit

[Skatzbatzowitz]

I am a UK Citizen,my Wife is from Belarus,she has been in the UK 3 years and works full time.She wants her parents to visit us this september,but as i have explained to Her we have a 1 bedroom flat and it is impossible for them to stay with us.However she wants me to write a letter of invitation in which she wants me to lie and say that they will be staying with us and that i will also sponsor them..i am already her Sponsor and am unwilling to lie to the Home Office as i work in a sensistive job which requires that i have no criminal record.Can she write a letter of invitation and will the Home Office contact me about being their sponsor and their accomadation etc.If she is caught out,will she lose her visa and be refused another extension.

[Zerubbabel]

Hello

Staying with you or not, it's not critical.

To avoid lying, you can just put that you will "provide accommodation". This will cover the case of them going to the hotel as technically you are providing the hotel room.

[seagul]

If your are renting then you will need the noc letter from landlord/estate agent

[iwolga]

I am a UK Citizen,my Wife is from Belarus,she has been in the UK 3 years and works full time.She wants her parents to visit us this september,but as i have explained to Her we have a 1 bedroom flat and it is impossible for them to stay with us.However she wants me to write a letter of invitation in which she wants me to lie and say that they will be staying with us and that i will also sponsor them..i am already her Sponsor and am unwilling to lie to the Home Office as i work in a sensistive job which requires that i have no criminal record.Can she write a letter of invitation and will the Home Office contact me about being their sponsor and their accomadation etc.If she is caught out,will she lose her visa and be refused another extension.

I think you first need to agree with your wife an action plan.If you need to explain that a 1 bedroom is not enough space, I assume she wants them to stay with you? Is the hotel an option? Who's going to be paying for it?

Once you answered these questions, a letter is just a letter confirming the invitation. Don't lie to HO. Sponsoring the visit isn't the same as sponsoring your wife - it's much less of the deal (as long as your in-laws leave on time).

[Zerubbabel]

If your are renting then you will need the noc letter from landlord/estate agent

For visitor visa, it's not required to involved the landlord or estate agent. When I was a tenant, I invited friends/family for years without ever getting to the landlord or estate agent. As far as they are concerned, I have the right to receive visitors.

[seagul]

If your are renting then you will need the noc letter from landlord/estate agent

For visitor visa, it's not required to involved the landlord or estate agent. When I was a tenant, I invited friends/family for years without ever getting to the landlord or estate agent. As far as they are concerned, I have the right to receive visitors.

If you are taking the responsibility of your visitors by providing your accommodation then regardless of the type of visa then accommodation should be legally occupied and is not overcrowded. If you are accommodating someone without the landlord's permission then it means you are subletting and you are breaching your contract. And if ukvi come to know the basis of that arranged accommodation then certainly the visa will be refused and even the sponsor might be penalised.

[Zerubbabel]

Receiving a visitor, it's not subletting.

Check your rental/letting agreement. You have the right to receive visitors without having to let the landlord know.

There will be no social life possible if you have to inform the landlord every time you have to invite friends and family for a tea, dinner, weekend of holidays. What would you do if a friend comes for dinner then it's too late for him and decides to spend the night? Would you call the landlord for an emergency clearance for him to spend the night?

The "overcrowding" concept doesn't exist for visitor visas. That's only for spouse visas.

I for one try not give people/authorities more power than what they already have. I give them the bare minimum. If I rent (=pays someones else mortgage) he has no right to know who sleeps in my bed or in my sofa. I wouldn't sign any contract that gives a landlord such power.

[Skatzbatzowitz]

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to reply..I am a lot more clear about things now.Thank you all once again

[seagul]

Receiving a visitor, it's not subletting.

Check your rental/letting agreement. You have the right to receive visitors without having to let the landlord know.

Yes to local visitors instead importing them from abroad

The "overcrowding" concept doesn't exist for visitor visas. That's only for spouse visas.

Utter nonsense as housing act 1985 is for all.

[Zerubbabel]

Yes to local visitors instead importing them from abroad

We are not going to agree on this one.

My visitors can come from Brighton, New York, Tokyo or Kinshasa... It's none of the landlord business. The people who sleep in my bed on in my sofa are part of my private life. I never shared that with any landlord during the last decades and I am not planing to do it in the future. We live in the UK, I understand immigration rules are tough, but it's not North Korea (yet).

I understand it can be an issue in shared accommodation where a flat/house is shared/rented on room per room basis.

I also agree that a landlord, when he rents his place, he has to make sure the tenant is legal in the country (Hostile Environment policy). But that right doesn't extend to anyone who come to visit, have a tea, spend the night or anything. The landlord doesn't have the right to check the immigration status of your friends, relatives and social network.

[seagul]

I never shared that with any landlord during the last decades and I am not planing to do it in the future.

Forget the old golden days. Now landlord/letting agent inspect the property every 3 months and also the caseworker most often contact the landlord or write straight to the council if finds something suspicion. And already the visitor visas undergo stringent checks now.