Immigration Cap

[ukswus]

Can anyone tell me how increasing the points threshold from 75 to 80 (or 95 to 100) for first time in-country applicants (like psw holders) from 19 July, 2010 stop a last minute rush into the UK prior to April 2011?

Sometimes, I wonder what kind of brains the people who make these rules/thier advisers have.

This is a rather important point you have noticed.

Before the elections, the Conservatives (and the media, e.g. Daily Mail) were trying REALLY hard to show how shockingly high the level of immigration was. Since they knew that in reality the net economic migrants numbers from outside the EU were in fact falling, they had to:

a) lump all students into immigrant category, and
b) count all extending their stay under Tier 1 and 2, and those switching into those categories from inside the country, into "new arrivals". This was the only way for them to make both "total immigration", and especially "net immigration", look high.

I know, this is a rather stupid policy to target existing visa holders in order to deal with new immigration, but this is in fact what they seem to be doing.

[manuelaux]

I’m completely lost in all this changes.

I’m planning to apply in August.

Could someone please tell me what will be changed after 19th July? Is there anything official what will be changed?

[aspirant99]

I’m completely lost in all this changes.

I’m planning to apply in August.

Could someone please tell me what will be changed after 19th July? Is there anything official what will be changed?

The only changes that we are aware till now are:

1) instead of 75 now the applicant has to score 80 points in attributes.

2) there will be a cap on the numbe rof applications till april'11--around 5400..this will be dealt on monthly basis.

The are some details published on the UKBA website in the immigration & law sections..u can read it from there and take some pointers..good luck!!

[aruni4470]

I’m completely lost in all this changes.

I’m planning to apply in August.

Could someone please tell me what will be changed after 19th July? Is there anything official what will be changed?

Reading the links below might help

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... nges-to-t1

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... for-t1-pbs

[dainteej]

I am really stressed by this all...when I had planned to apply aug 11th and i currently have 95 points I JUST got a new job which will make me have 100 point but points are given based on past income so by the time i apply I will be still short of the income earned needed to push me over the mark.

I plan to ask my new employer to give me a salary advance which would push my earnings up to the 20 pounds I need. Has anybody every done this before?

What do you guru's think of the implications of this

[aspirant99]

I am really stressed by this all...when I had planned to apply aug 11th and i currently have 95 points I JUST got a new job which will make me have 100 point but points are given based on past income so by the time i apply I will be still short of the income earned needed to push me over the mark.

I plan to ask my new employer to give me a salary advance which would push my earnings up to the 20 pounds I need. Has anybody every done this before?

What do you guru's think of the implications of this

I would rather suggest that you take up some additional part-time consultancy work as you said you are just short of 20 quids..but make sure you get the documentations right for that as you have to provide it while filing your application..good luck..!!

[dainteej]

I am really stressed by this all...when I had planned to apply aug 11th and i currently have 95 points I JUST got a new job which will make me have 100 point but points are given based on past income so by the time i apply I will be still short of the income earned needed to push me over the mark.

I plan to ask my new employer to give me a salary advance which would push my earnings up to the 20 pounds I need. Has anybody every done this before?

What do you guru's think of the implications of this

I would rather suggest that you take up some additional part-time consultancy work as you said you are just short of 20 quids..but make sure you get the documentations right for that as you have to provide it while filing your application..good luck..!!

What i meant to say was push my earnings up to the 20 points i need. I need more than 20 pounds. I need to get 1 and a half months salary advance from my new job to meet the salary band

[push]

Unearned income like advance etc can not count towards your earnings for Tier-1

I am really stressed by this all...when I had planned to apply aug 11th and i currently have 95 points I JUST got a new job which will make me have 100 point but points are given based on past income so by the time i apply I will be still short of the income earned needed to push me over the mark.

I plan to ask my new employer to give me a salary advance which would push my earnings up to the 20 pounds I need. Has anybody every done this before?

What do you guru's think of the implications of this

I would rather suggest that you take up some additional part-time consultancy work as you said you are just short of 20 quids..but make sure you get the documentations right for that as you have to provide it while filing your application..good luck..!!

What i meant to say was push my earnings up to the 20 points i need. I need more than 20 pounds. I need to get 1 and a half months salary advance from my new job to meet the salary band

[Pierrot95]

Friends, why these sort of things happening to us as we are the people who bring money into this country, work here pay proper taxes, well educated...Why the hell, this government wants us to be out???

I don't think the government want us out. I don't want to play the devil's advocate, but remember that the migrants coming under the PBS are the only one that the government has control on. All other migrants (EU, marriage, refugees) come under some form of international rules. How do you think the government will deliver its promise of cutting immigration? They only have two options: telling the british people that they were lying about immigration just to win the elections, or cutting immigration where they can cut, whatever the consequences on UK economy are.
The most annoying thing is that when the average british comnplain about immigration, they generally mean eastern EU immigration. But politicians have managed to convince them that cutting non-EU immigration is the answer.
When we will leave and people realise that we were not the ones jumping their housing queues, getting their benefits, using translators in hospitals, that we were just working hard and paying our taxes without getting any access to public funds, they will wake up.

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[Saga]

When we will leave and people realise that we were not the ones jumping their housing queues, getting their benefits, using translators in hospitals, that we were just working hard and paying our taxes without getting any access to public funds, they will wake up

Precisely! Very well articulated...

But can we or HSMP forums etc. can put this out now ?

[kps2007]

I totally Agree with Perriot, But in a country where human rights are valued so much, why would the government won't wake up to our griefs. There could be two reasons for that i would believe :

1) The government is not bothered about us.
2) We as non-EU immigrants not spreading enough awareness of what value we bring to the country.

Did any one remember watching the a brief news during the election period about the average of people leaving UK? As far as remember the news clearly presented a report conducted by an independet BBC correspondent about people from NON-EU countries coming:leaving ratio was down to -8000 and the same ratio between people EU immigirants was +45000. What happened to that report, did conservatives deliberately stopped airing it?

I guess it is the balance that labour certainly did not care about and flooded the country with unwanted people but conservetives are not doing any good as well by hiding the realities of immigration from genral public.

I guess if the GOVT is not ready to spread a good word about non-EU workes than don't you think that we should do it as no one better than us could be in the position to spread this word using websites or anything. I am not a website developrer but if any one is willing to volunteer than i have a domain name that can be used for this purpose. All we would need is a simple HTML, .NET home page and lots of word spreading.

Just a suggestion.

[ldbright]

I totally Agree with Perriot, But in a country where human rights are valued so much, why would the government won't wake up to our griefs. There could be two reasons for that i would believe :

1) The government is not bothered about us.
2) We as non-EU immigrants not spreading enough awareness of what value we bring to the country.

Did any one remember watching the a brief news during the election period about the average of people leaving UK? As far as remember the news clearly presented a report conducted by an independet BBC correspondent about people from NON-EU countries coming:leaving ratio was down to -8000 and the same ratio between people EU immigirants was +45000. What happened to that report, did conservatives deliberately stopped airing it?

I guess it is the balance that labour certainly did not care about and flooded the country with unwanted people but conservetives are not doing any good as well by hiding the realities of immigration from genral public.

I guess if the GOVT is not ready to spread a good word about non-EU workes than don't you think that we should do it as no one better than us could be in the position to spread this word using websites or anything. I am not a website developrer but if any one is willing to volunteer than i have a domain name that can be used for this purpose. All we would need is a simple HTML, .NET home page and lots of word spreading.

Just a suggestion.

How about a facebook page?

[d1o]

d1o wrote:
Can anyone tell me how increasing the points threshold from 75 to 80 (or 95 to 100) for first time in-country applicants (like psw holders) from 19 July, 2010 stop a last minute rush into the UK prior to April 2011?

Sometimes, I wonder what kind of brains the people who make these rules/thier advisers have.

This is a rather important point you have noticed.

Before the elections, the Conservatives (and the media, e.g. Daily Mail) were trying REALLY hard to show how shockingly high the level of immigration was. Since they knew that in reality the net economic migrants numbers from outside the EU were in fact falling, they had to:

a) lump all students into immigrant category, and
b) count all extending their stay under Tier 1 and 2, and those switching into those categories from inside the country, into "new arrivals". This was the only way for them to make both "total immigration", and especially "net immigration", look high.

I know, this is a rather stupid policy to target existing visa holders in order to deal with new immigration, but this is in fact what they seem to be doing

So the bottom line is that the government is deceiving it's own people..just to look good. Wonders never end.

[prisat]

Oooooffffffffffffff - read the entire stuff today !!!!

Tired reading all this Believe aruni4470 summarized the updates.

Rest seems assumptions, atleast to me.

You cannot say anything unless you are May herself or the official secretary of May or a Immigration law maker in UK or the UK PM.


All i can say is

When I look back on all these worries I remember the story of the old man who said on his deathbed that he had a lot of trouble in his life, most of which had never happened.
~ Winston Churchill

Let us leave the rest of the things to the UK Law makers .

[rizwan567]

New forms and guidelines have published on UKBA web for applications on or after 19 July 10

[tvn_ramesh]

Instead of advance salary ask ur employer to give the required amount as Bonus, as bonus is accepted as earnings without any hassels..

I am really stressed by this all...when I had planned to apply aug 11th and i currently have 95 points I JUST got a new job which will make me have 100 point but points are given based on past income so by the time i apply I will be still short of the income earned needed to push me over the mark.

I plan to ask my new employer to give me a salary advance which would push my earnings up to the 20 pounds I need. Has anybody every done this before?

What do you guru's think of the implications of this

[kpc1981]

New forms and guidelines have published on UKBA web for applications on or after 19 July 10

Does not look like updated for "applying for outside uk initial applications". I did check that..but just want to confirm, did you see them?

I will be applying by this month end, so looking for new forms!

[geriatrix]

New forms and guidelines have published on UKBA web for applications on or after 19 July 10

Does not look like updated for "applying for outside uk initial applications". I did check that..but just want to confirm, did you see them?

I will be applying by this month end, so looking for new forms!

Forms on UKBA website are meant for people applying from within UK. When applying from outside UK, check UKVisas website.

The policy guidance, on the other hand, may be used by anyone.


regards

[Sky_High]

New forms and guidelines have published on UKBA web for applications on or after 19 July 10

Does not look like updated for "applying for outside uk initial applications". I did check that..but just want to confirm, did you see them?

I will be applying by this month end, so looking for new forms!

Forms on UKBA website are meant for people applying from within UK. When applying from outside UK, check UKVisas website.

The policy guidance, on the other hand, may be used by anyone.


regards

Oh dear! Is it correct? Are they mad?

Some one under 30 will get 20 points for age, 35 points for master and will have to earn £40K+ to earn 25 points or £35K+ to earn 20 points if he/she has UK experience (5 points) = 80 Points

And some one above 40 have to earn £75K+ to score 45 points + 35 points for masters = 80 Points

If some one is earning £75K in his home country, will he be made to come to UK?

Please some one tell me that I am wrong!

[kpc1981]

New forms and guidelines have published on UKBA web for applications on or after 19 July 10

Does not look like updated for "applying for outside uk initial applications". I did check that..but just want to confirm, did you see them?

I will be applying by this month end, so looking for new forms!

Forms on UKBA website are meant for people applying from within UK. When applying from outside UK, check UKVisas website.

The policy guidance, on the other hand, may be used by anyone.


regards

yes, correct. This form http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/ ... sappendix1 still talks about 75 points, which is confusing me. Any inputs?

[geriatrix]

Did it occur to you that UKVisas website might not have been updated with new information (yet)? Check back on the 19th when changes become applicable.


regards

[kitettt]

sushdmehta, you are being very rude. kpc1981 I guess is very anxious like many others here, so please be polite to your fellow imigrants.

[adityak77]

Ukvisas web site is not yet updated, so check after 19th July.

The 80 point rule was declared in June 28th or 30th, but unless the attributes distribution isnt published you wont knw.

I guess 5 points will add to the earning section.

[push]

Ukvisas web site is not yet updated, so check after 19th July.

The 80 point rule was declared in June 28th or 30th, but unless the attributes distribution isnt published you wont knw.

I guess 5 points will add to the earning section.

Sorry but I dont understand what do you mean by "5 points will be added to the earnings section". You seem to be suggesting that there will be sectional cut-off? If so please provide the source of your information.

[adityak77]

Ukvisas web site is not yet updated, so check after 19th July.

The 80 point rule was declared in June 28th or 30th, but unless the attributes distribution isnt published you wont knw.

I guess 5 points will add to the earning section.

Sorry but I dont understand what do you mean by "5 points will be added to the earnings section". You seem to be suggesting that there will be sectional cut-off? If so please provide the source of your information.

Theres no src of information with me. But the 5 extra points that need to be earned will be in the earning section IMO. It cant be in Age, nor educational qualifications.

However I may be wrong. Wait and watch tomorrow.