irish citizenship when res in Northern Ireland

[kayac00]

hey all,

Im an Northern Ireland resident and have been all my life I hold irish and british passports as legally i am entitled to both. My husband in romanian been living here in NI gor 6 years with indefinite leave to remain from UK Gov. Hes decided hes interested in applying for irish citizenship but I feel like im getting nowhere in understanding if he is entitled to it or not. From what I understood as long as he was legally resident on the island of ireland for 3 years he could apply. However on printing out the application form and emailing those INIS people he does not appear to be entitled as we do not not any garda regristration stamps obviously as we live in the north and there is no garda here. Also the INIS emailed me back and said that he could only apply if we lived in the south so I am confused basically people can he apply for irish citizenship or not and if he can what form do I need to print?

Many thanks
Kay

[Ben]

Sorry this isn't really related to your question, but would he be better off applying for British citizenship?

It's much quicker, not to mention cheaper.

[IrishTom]

Hes entitled to apply for Irish citizenship after five years.....

[Ben]

Hes entitled to apply for Irish citizenship after five years.....

Three years if married to an Irish citizen.

If you are the spouse of an Irish citizen who is applying for Irish citizenship you must meet the following conditions:

* You must be married to the Irish citizen for at least 3 years
* You must have had a period of 1 year's continuous "reckonable residence" in the island of Ireland immediately before the date of your application
* You must have been living on the island of Ireland for at least 2 of the 4 years before that year of continuous residence
* Your marriage must be recognised as valid under Irish law
* You and your spouse must be living together as husband and wife
* You must be of full age, good character and intend to continue to live on the island of Ireland
* You must have made a declaration of fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the State.

[kayac00]

Hi Benifa,

Yes he can also apply for british citizenship in all honestly he just couldnt be bothered with the life in UK test and citizenship ceromony! If it wasnt such a hassle to renew his romanian passport he probbaly wouldnt bother with either

Yes I think 3 years is correct if your married i was convinced he could apply but now Im having doubts!

[Ben]

You are correct Kay, your husband can apply for Irish citizenship now. Processing takes around 3 years and the cost is €950.

British citizenship applications take around 8 months to process, the cost is £720 and, you are correct, the life in the UK test is required.

[IrishTom]

If it wasnt such a hassle to renew his romanian passport he probbaly wouldnt bother with either

The "new Irish" , indeed. Get an Irish passport due to the hassels of renewing your own passport. Insanity.

This lunacy is continuing and people wonder why the average Irish person is p*ssed off?

[Ben]

The "new Irish" , indeed. Get an Irish passport due to the hassels of renewing your own passport. Insanity.

This lunacy is continuing and people wonder why the average Irish person is p*ssed off?

If someone has lived on this island for six years like an Irish citizen, is married to an Irish citizen, intends to continue living on this island like an Irish citizen and is entitled to apply to become an Irish citizen, why would any Irish citizen object to this person becoming an Irish citizen and thus carry an Irish passport?

You say the average Irish person would be unhappy about this. I really don't think they would.

[IrishTom]

The "new Irish" , indeed. Get an Irish passport due to the hassels of renewing your own passport. Insanity.

This lunacy is continuing and people wonder why the average Irish person is p*ssed off?

If someone has lived on this island for six years like an Irish citizen, is married to an Irish citizen, intends to continue living on this island like an Irish citizen and is entitled to apply to become an Irish citizen, why would any Irish citizen object to this person becoming an Irish citizen and thus carry an Irish passport?

You say the average Irish person would be unhappy about this. I really don't think they would.

He is as Irish as pasta. Hes married to an Irish person, so what? Does his missus intend on picking up Romanian citizenship? Yer man only wants an Irish passport to avoid the hassel of renewing his Romanian one.

We are being swamped with people, who have phuc all ties with this great nation, applying for citizenship, and indeed getting it. Meanwhile, the scum in the dail ignore the diaspora.

Time to adopt the Swiss aproach.

[Ben]

He is as Irish as pasta.

I feel you may be confusing Irish ethnicity with Irish citizenship.

Does his missus intend on picking up Romanian citizenship?

Kay has not lived in Romania for the past six years.

Yer man only wants an Irish passport to avoid the hassel of renewing his Romanian one.

So it would seem. So what?

We are being swamped with people, who have phuc all ties with this great nation, applying for citizenship, and indeed getting it.

You say this, but Kay's husband clearly has ties with this island, as well as with the United Kingdom, which has already been discussed on this thread.

I don't want to get in to an argument with you Tom. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm merely responding.

[IrishTom]

So it would seem. So what?

It devalues Irish citizenship. It devalues the struggle of my northern cousins to fight for the right to be considered Irish. This man wants Irish citizenship for one reason, he reckons its less hassel than renewing his own.

He should be politely told to phuc off. Remember, the government are throwing passports around like confetti, whilst they are ignoring the diaspora. Some of whom, speak better Irish than the majority of the population(I am referring to the Argetines who were sent packing in 2003).

You say this, but Kay's husband clearly has ties with this island, as well as with the United Kingdom, which has already been discussed on this thread.

If I married a Chinese woman, would that make me Chinese? Paying tax to the crown does not make one Irish.

I don't want to get in to an argument with you Tom. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm merely responding.

Sound.

[kayac00]

Thanks Benifa I appreciate your helpfulness i am sorry i took so long to reply i was out in the afternoon.

Irishtom- I apologise if my comment riled you but may i point out my husband has been living here for 6 years paying taxes and never asking anything from the state neither irish or uk He also has involved himself in the community . We have 2 children yes who have both irish and romanian citizenship and to renew his passport he has to go to Romania for the length of time it takes to process which is weeks so he just cant up sticks and leave thats why its a hassle. No I do not have a romanian passport but that i because i do not meet the requirments that they set down.

Benifa do you know is it just Form 8 that I need to complete.

Many thanks

Kay