BRP + non EEA = any benefits at all!?

[Bucki]

Hi

I believe many people asking more or less the same question and hope you don't mind me asking ...

Right, my wife is in UK with a BRP card and comes from non-EEA country. Also states "no public funds" on the card! whereas myself i am a british citizen!

never the less; she is now pregnant and I be a dad soon
(another 8 months to go lol)

my silly question is:

- will she be entitled to anything !?

i dont want to call it a benefit as benfits are something u receive on regular basis, right? My friend told me that his wife received some kind of money as being pregnant but is not classes as benefit ... god know what that is really!!

if reading what it says on the tinn "no public funds" then it means not entiteled to anything at all!

Is there anything she is entitled to
apart from the "child tax" I believe!?

whereas, myself as the father, am entitled to any benefits provided i meet the critetia; which I doubt I meet them!!

I am on 22K salary and acording to google I got a high salary and wont get any child tax or working tax credit.

finally, am I entitled to apply for a council house!?
of course I be paying the rent as I am working but looking from a point of eligability; am I entitled to!?

considering that; I think the housing benefit will only count me as 1 person (without my wife since she got BRP) and therefore they will say "right, u only can apply for 1
bed flat room"

which is useless to me, as we having a baby at later stage!
currently living at my parents on temp basis.

but yeh will have to leave sooner or later!!

[Casa]

Once your baby is born you can apply for a council house based on you as a single occupant + your child. i.e your wife can't be considered in the calculation.

[CR001]

And of course, there is a waiting list of a few years for council houses so many people claim HB as single + child and rent privately.

Bear in mind that you still need to meet all the same requirements when your spouse extends her spouse visa.

[Bucki]

CASA

can I not put the application beforehand knowing and prooving that I be having a child after so many months!?

or is. requirement to wait until then ...?


CR1

not sure what u mean by "receive HB as single and rent privatly"? And yes, just cos I be on council house -
does not mean i breach the rules

I be still working and meeting the requirement
(touching wood).

yeh there is a waiting list
but single parent are considered first.

seeing that my wife is not being considered at all and not entiteled to any benefit - then I am a single parent!

gosh, how am i supposed to cope!!
on 22k salary + child + wife and then rent and all that

i be f ...ed
hope i wont be jobeless when it comes to the renewal of the visa otherwise i might just jump off a bridge!!! Saying that cos I spend hell a lot of money to come to this point - waiting 5 years for IRL is far too long and then it be 10 years it finances are not met --- this would be a failure and very disappointing!

[Casa]

You can't apply as a parent until the child is born. Regarding allocation of council housing, you may want to read through this link from the charity Shelter. Priority isn't necessarily given to single parents...it's generally given to the homeless, those living in extremely poor conditions, or people who are medically in need of a secure home or at risk of domestic abuse.
Depending on the area where you choose to live, an income of £22,000+ should enable you to find affordable privately rented accommodation.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advic ... s_priority

[CR001]

yeh there is a waiting list
but single parent are considered first.

But you are not going to be a single parent. I know of single mothers with 2 or 3 kids who have been on the waiting list in excess of 2 years (outside of London) and have to live in 1 bed flat while they wait.

The fact that you are married will always be taken into account. Your wife however cannot be included in any entitlement you might have and if she is working, her income will be taken into account with yours to calculate what you could get.

[Bucki]

You can't apply as a parent until the child is born. Regarding allocation of council housing, you may want to read through this link from the charity Shelter. Priority isn't necessarily given to single parents...it's generally given to the homeless, those living in extremely poor conditions, or people who are medically in need of a secure home or at risk of domestic abuse.
Depending on the area where you choose to live, an income of £22,000+ should enable you to find affordable privately rented accommodation.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advic ... s_priority

reason why I am after a council house is because of the cheaper rent!
Also, it would be much cheaper to buy the property after so many years ...

whereas now, I cannot afford to buy my own place and private renting is just a lot £600+ pcm
not to forget all the other costs: water + electric + council tax and god knows what else.

yes I am on 22k a year but after tax I end up just about 1350pcm (after tax) (got student loan as well)
considering the rent of £600+ and all other expenses sums up over 800+ pcm

addition to that; all other living expenses. Not to forget most importantly; I will be supporting my child and my wife. My wife with no English + working skills / experience at all; has low chance of getting a job!

must say ... unless you are on 30K salary there is not much you can do with the money apart from getting paid, pay the bills and struggle to have a life.

I am just shocked that there is nooooooo benefit whatsoever to support my wife/child.
Ok, child tax credit and working tax credit = only eligible depending on my income
which will be nothing or peanuts.

hmmmm after all paying such high volume of money / cost ; visa + application etc.
would have thought to see some light at the end of the tunnel BUT it is only getting worse!

[Casa]

When you applied for your wife's settlement visa you had to show that you could support her without claiming Public funds on £18,600. This is the figure that the HO consider is sufficient. Many applicants complain that this figure has been set too high!
You will be able to claim Child Benefit for your child once it is born and Child Tax Credit if you qualify with your level of earnings.
You may want to help your wife to improve her level of English if she is struggling. Not only to improve her chances of integrating here and perhaps finding work later on, but also in order to pass the B1 level English test that she will need when applying for ILR later on.
Luckily, you have family here who are able to provide you with accommodation, even if this isn't what you would choose in the long-term.

[Bucki]

When you applied for your wife's settlement visa you had to show that you could support her without claiming Public funds on £18,600. This is the figure that the HO consider is sufficient. Many applicants complain that this figure has been set too high!
You will be able to claim Child Benefit for your child once it is born and Child Tax Credit if you qualify with your level of earnings.
You may want to help your wife to improve her level of English if she is struggling. Not only to improve her chances of integrating here and perhaps finding work later on, but also in order to pass the B1 level English test that she will need when applying for ILR later on.
Luckily, you have family here who are able to provide you with accommodation, even if this isn't what you would choose in the long-term.

yes, I suppose you are right!
if my family was not here, I would have been in different state in terms of finance.

I am panicking, I think.
It is all coming on my head, wife, child, house :/

Surely will have to teach her English and pass all the test she got to go through.
Not a piece of cake, is it!

http://taxcredits.hmrc.gov.uk/Qualify/DIQHousehold.aspx
asked me how much I earned from "6th April 2014 to 5th April 2015" which is less then 12K
since I started working in Nov 2014 and was on JobCen. prioer to that.

if I provide that figure for those dates, then it shows that I am entitled to child tax credit.

Anyway, will have to find out later.
Thanks for your advise.

[Petaltop]

reason why I am after a council house is because of the cheaper rent!

That's ending.

Chancellor George Osborne said those earning £40,000 or more in London and £30,000 in the rest of England will now be charged full market rates for local authority or housing association properties.
http://www.localgov.co.uk/Budget-2015-O ... sing/39004

[Bucki]

...earning £40,000 or more in London and £30,000 in the rest of England..

really?
at a salary of 30K I would not fuzz about it at all buddy

[Bucki]

I am about sceptical about the SSMG entitlement:

- Child Tax Credit at a rate higher than the family element
- Working Tax Credit that includes a disability or severe disability element

the wife is entitled to SSMG only if I (the spouse) am receiving any of them above while working
but - what is the high rate than the family element ?? and also if the Working Tax Credit DOES NOT include the disability or severe disability element ; then you cannot claim it.

This is what makes me think :/
Although in other topic on this forum been said that SSMG is public funds and not entitled to receive!!