Couple sharing a car - PCN impacts the owner's application

[epabak_jotona]

Hi all,

My wife and I share one car. It is the only car we have and it is registered under my wife's name. So all PCN's are issued to her name as the owner of the car, even when I was driving the car. So I am now worried that the PCN's that I was responsible for could actually impact her citizenship application.

Going through the AN guide and I realised that PCNs also need to be declared. And although PCN's normally won't impact the application, according to the AN guideline, having "a lot" of them could actually negatively impact the application. This seems to be a grey area in the guide, but reading this forum I realised that having 2 in the past 12 months could be considered "a lot".

I really appreciate any advice on this as I am nervous that the PCN's that I have actually been responsible for could impact her application.

Kind regards,
Epabak

[Djsuccess]

Hi all,

My wife and I share one car. It is the only car we have and it is registered under my wife's name. So all PCN's are issued to her name as the owner of the car, even when I was driving the car. So I am now worried that the PCN's that I was responsible for could actually impact her citizenship application.

Going through the AN guide and I realised that PCNs also need to be declared. And although PCN's normally won't impact the application, according to the AN guideline, having "a lot" of them could actually negatively impact the application. This seems to be a grey area in the guide, but reading this forum I realised that having 2 in the past 12 months could be considered "a lot".

I really appreciate any advice on this as I am nervous that the PCN's that I have actually been responsible for could impact her application.

Kind regards,
Epabak

PCNs and FPNs are usually issued to the registered keeper, who then has the responsibility of identifying the driver at the time of the offence. If your wife have been taken PCNs for offence you committed, then you have a bigger legal issue of perverting the cause of justice.

[epabak_jotona]

Hi all,

My wife and I share one car. It is the only car we have and it is registered under my wife's name. So all PCN's are issued to her name as the owner of the car, even when I was driving the car. So I am now worried that the PCN's that I was responsible for could actually impact her citizenship application.

Going through the AN guide and I realised that PCNs also need to be declared. And although PCN's normally won't impact the application, according to the AN guideline, having "a lot" of them could actually negatively impact the application. This seems to be a grey area in the guide, but reading this forum I realised that having 2 in the past 12 months could be considered "a lot".

I really appreciate any advice on this as I am nervous that the PCN's that I have actually been responsible for could impact her application.

Kind regards,
Epabak

PCNs and FPNs are usually issued to the registered keeper, who then has the responsibility of identifying the driver at the time of the offence. If your wife have been taken PCNs for offence you committed, then you have a bigger legal issue of perverting the cause of justice.

Hi Djsuccess,

Thanks for the advice. But your statement isn’t correct. PCNs are not like FPNs. PCNs are dealt with under the Civil law and it is stated in the law that no matter who has been driving, the PCN will ONLY be issued to the registered keeper.

In fact, we contacted the authorities and tried so hard to change the name on the PCNs, when they happened, but they refused to do so. And that is the whole issue here.

Best,
Epabak

[Djsuccess]

Hi all,

My wife and I share one car. It is the only car we have and it is registered under my wife's name. So all PCN's are issued to her name as the owner of the car, even when I was driving the car. So I am now worried that the PCN's that I was responsible for could actually impact her citizenship application.

Going through the AN guide and I realised that PCNs also need to be declared. And although PCN's normally won't impact the application, according to the AN guideline, having "a lot" of them could actually negatively impact the application. This seems to be a grey area in the guide, but reading this forum I realised that having 2 in the past 12 months could be considered "a lot".

I really appreciate any advice on this as I am nervous that the PCN's that I have actually been responsible for could impact her application.

Kind regards,
Epabak

PCNs and FPNs are usually issued to the registered keeper, who then has the responsibility of identifying the driver at the time of the offence. If your wife have been taken PCNs for offence you committed, then you have a bigger legal issue of perverting the cause of justice.

Hi Djsuccess,

Thanks for the advice. But your statement isn’t correct. PCNs are not like FPNs. PCNs are dealt with under the Civil law and it is stated in the law that no matter who has been driving, the PCN will ONLY be issued to the registered keeper.

if this is the case, then you have nothing to worry about. Just declare the PCNs in the application. I guess there's nothing you can do about it. If you dont mind me asking, how many PCNs have you had in the last 5 years?
In fact, we contacted the authorities and tried so hard to change the name on the PCNs, when they happened, but they refused to do so. And that is the whole issue here.

Best,
Epabak

[epabak_jotona]

Hi all,

My wife and I share one car. It is the only car we have and it is registered under my wife's name. So all PCN's are issued to her name as the owner of the car, even when I was driving the car. So I am now worried that the PCN's that I was responsible for could actually impact her citizenship application.

Going through the AN guide and I realised that PCNs also need to be declared. And although PCN's normally won't impact the application, according to the AN guideline, having "a lot" of them could actually negatively impact the application. This seems to be a grey area in the guide, but reading this forum I realised that having 2 in the past 12 months could be considered "a lot".

I really appreciate any advice on this as I am nervous that the PCN's that I have actually been responsible for could impact her application.

Kind regards,
Epabak

PCNs and FPNs are usually issued to the registered keeper, who then has the responsibility of identifying the driver at the time of the offence. If your wife have been taken PCNs for offence you committed, then you have a bigger legal issue of perverting the cause of justice.

Hi Djsuccess,

Thanks for the advice. But your statement isn’t correct. PCNs are not like FPNs. PCNs are dealt with under the Civil law and it is stated in the law that no matter who has been driving, the PCN will ONLY be issued to the registered keeper.

if this is the case, then you have nothing to worry about. Just declare the PCNs in the application. I guess there's nothing you can do about it. If you dont mind me asking, how many PCNs have you had in the last 5 years?
In fact, we contacted the authorities and tried so hard to change the name on the PCNs, when they happened, but they refused to do so. And that is the whole issue here.

Best,
Epabak

I think we have 5 between the 2 of us. But again, unfortunately all PCNs have been issued on her name, as the registered keeper.

[epabak_jotona]

PCNs and FPNs are usually issued to the registered keeper, who then has the responsibility of identifying the driver at the time of the offence. If your wife have been taken PCNs for offence you committed, then you have a bigger legal issue of perverting the cause of justice.

Hi Djsuccess,

Thanks for the advice. But your statement isn’t correct. PCNs are not like FPNs. PCNs are dealt with under the Civil law and it is stated in the law that no matter who has been driving, the PCN will ONLY be issued to the registered keeper.

if this is the case, then you have nothing to worry about. Just declare the PCNs in the application. I guess there's nothing you can do about it. If you dont mind me asking, how many PCNs have you had in the last 5 years?
In fact, we contacted the authorities and tried so hard to change the name on the PCNs, when they happened, but they refused to do so. And that is the whole issue here.

Best,
Epabak

I think we have 5 between the 2 of us. But again, unfortunately all PCNs have been issued on her name, as the registered keeper.

Or maybe 4. I have to check again.

[AnotherUUID]

PCNs, especially ones paid on time, should not be an issue at all, but if there's 2 or more in the last 12 months, she should declare them just in case.

For the sake of your sanity, she can also write a short 1-2 sentence summary in a cover letter explaining what you've said here:

the PCN will ONLY be issued to the registered keeper.

In fact, we contacted the authorities and tried so hard to change the name on the PCNs, when they happened, but they refused to do so. And that is the whole issue here.