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Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:41 pm
by zunera mahmood
Hi
I need some advise as per my previous post. .about the credit history of my husband is not good and he has to set up a payment plan and then apply ...we were thinking that too wait for 6 months so that it shows in his credit file. .than he can apply .
My question is that is it possible that me and my son apply alone independently and not with my husband ..is it possible that we can apply before and as an independent applicant.
Please can any members share thier experience or information on this matter.
Thanks
Regards

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:48 pm
by noajthan
zunera mahmood wrote:Hi
I need some advise as per my previous post. .about the credit history of my husband is not good and he has to set up a payment plan and then apply ...we were thinking that too wait for 6 months so that it shows in his credit file. .than he can apply .
My question is that is it possible that me and my son apply alone independently and not with my husband ..is it possible that we can apply before and as an independent applicant.
Please can any members share thier experience or information on this matter.
Thanks
Regards

I don't know circumstances of son so can't comment on him. Minors register instead of naturalising anyway.

You appear to have registered at least 2 children previously so you are probably aware how that works anyway:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... l#p1157361

For you, you can apply under Section 6(1) of BNA;
ie in your own right if all requirements can be met.

See HO guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... r_2015.pdf
- page 4+

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:49 pm
by CR001
All applicants for Citizenship are individual and each person has to meet the requirements independently of family. There is no such thing as 'Dependent British citizenship' Application.

If you meet the 5 years residence requirement and are within the absence limits and hold ILR (and your son if born abroad), you can apply on your own. Your son's application (if born abroad) will only be successful if you are successful with your application.

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:00 pm
by zunera mahmood
Thanks a lot for your reply. .i came to UK in January 2011 and has been in uk since than ..I applied for ILR last year in 2015 in February.
So from your advise what I can gather I can apply as an individual for naturalisation with my son who was born in india and came to UK with me as well in 2011.
So should we apply together me and my son .....can anybody let me know what documents we need for me and my son ...I don't work ..so I hope that won't be a problem.
Thanks and looking forward to get some advise .

Regards
Zunera

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:02 pm
by ohara
How old is your son :?:

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:05 pm
by noajthan
zunera mahmood wrote:...can anybody let me know what documents we need for me and my son ...I don't work ..so I hope that won't be a problem.
Thanks and looking forward to get some advise .

Regards
Zunera
Employment or work is not a prerequisite for privilege of citizenship.

You appear to have registered at least 2 children previously so you are probably aware how that works anyway:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... l#p1157361

Choose appropriate section of BNA to apply under depending on where son was born;
:!: as born abroad he will need to be settled in UK with ILR.

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:09 pm
by CR001
You need to make sure that you have had ILR for exactly 12 months.

Does your Indian born son have ILR?

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:16 pm
by zunera mahmood
CR001 wrote:You need to make sure that you have had ILR for exactly 12 months.

Does your Indian born son have ILR?

Yes we came to UK in 2011 and both me and my son got our ILR in 2015...so we have ILR for exactly 12 months now.

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:24 pm
by CR001
You can apply for yourself on form AN.

Apply for your son on form MN1 under section 3(1) of the nationality act. This would be an application by discretion and he will only be successful if you are.

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:42 am
by zunera mahmood
Thanks for the reply. ..after reading all the answers what I. Gather is that I can apply with my son together for the naturalisation application ..my son s application will be only accepted and processed if mine is granted ..so that means I take both the applications together at my Ncs appointment and apply together. .
Please can anybody explain ..
Secondly will the home office object why my husband is not applying as from my previous reference numbers they will see that we all apply as a family. ..will his credit file impact on the decision of my application ...as I'm his wife .
Please can anyone clarify ..
Thanks ..

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:45 am
by CR001
so that means I take both the applications together at my Ncs appointment and apply together. .
Yes, AN form for you and MN1 form for the child.
Secondly will the home office object why my husband is not applying as from my previous reference numbers they will see that we all apply as a family.
No. There is no 'dependent citizenship' process or requirement. Don't confuse immigration rules (visa) with citizenship laws and requirements. Many people live for years with just ILR and never apply for citizenship. It is a personal choice and not compulsory.
..will his credit file impact on the decision of my application ...as I'm his wife .
Only if you have the debt in JOINT NAMES.

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:49 am
by ohara
If your son is under 18 you need to apply for him with form MN1, it's a slightly different process to yours as minors are registered not naturalised. As said the application is at the discretion of the Home Secretary and will only be approved if yours is successful (but won't normally be refused if yours is successful). He will not need to attend a ceremony if successful.

They will not care whatsoever that your husband is not applying to naturalise at the same time, there is no requirement to apply jointly and it is purely the choice of an individual whether they apply or not. They won't hold it against you.

Credit file should have no impact if it's not in your name / joint name, and even if it is, they will usually not worry too much about credit card / loan etc providing they are not excessive and you are clearly making an effort to pay them off and not recklessly running up huge debts with no intention of paying.

Re: Can the wife apply for naturalisation independently

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:51 am
by noajthan
zunera mahmood wrote:Thanks for the reply. ..after reading all the answers what I. Gather is that I can apply with my son together for the naturalisation application ..my son s application will be only accepted and processed if mine is granted ..so that means I take both the applications together at my Ncs appointment and apply together. .
Please can anybody explain ..
Secondly will the home office object why my husband is not applying as from my previous reference numbers they will see that we all apply as a family. ..will his credit file impact on the decision of my application ...as I'm his wife .
Please can anyone clarify ..
Thanks ..
You appear to understand the process (& after all you have registered children before).

It is no business of HO to ask about your decision to file separate applications.
It is a free country which is presumably one reason behind your choice to naturalise.
"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail—its roof may shake—the wind may blow through it—the storm may enter—the rain may enter—but the King of England cannot enter—all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement." So be it—unless he has justification by law.
- Lord Denning
Good luck.