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ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:06 pm
by ashturbo
Hey all, I was glad to find this useful forum after searching everywhere and calling various government/councils but still unable to find the information I require, so hoping someone one here can shed some light as I am desperate now.
My current status is :-
-Indefinite leave to remain on an Indian passport (held ILR for last 8years ) (Lived in UK since 1998)
-Have the English qualifications for Life in the UK
-Passed the Life in the UK test
Am I right in thinking I need to fill in the AN form for naturalisation + British passport form?
I am also looking to change my Surname, Would you recommend me doing this after I have received my british passport OR could this be done in the process of the application ( I understand I will need to apply for a deedpoll)
Thanks for reading and hoping you can help me as I would greatly appreciate it.
Regards,
Ash
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:11 pm
by Casa
ashturbo wrote:Hey all, I was glad to find this useful forum after searching everywhere and calling various government/councils but still unable to find the information I require, so hoping someone one here can shed some light as I am desperate now.
My current status is :-
-Indefinite leave to remain on an Indian passport (held ILR for last 8years ) (Lived in UK since 1998)
-Have the English qualifications for Life in the UK
Is this B1 level English from an approved test/test provider?
-Passed the Life in the UK test
Am I right in thinking I need to fill in the AN form for naturalisation + British passport form?
Form AN is for British citizenship, the passport application is a separate form. You will only qualify for a British passport once you have been granted BC.
I am also looking to change my Surname, Would you recommend me doing this after I have received my british passport OR could this be done in the process of the application ( I understand I will need to apply for a deedpoll)
Changing it now will complicate your application and is likely to delay a decision.
Thanks for reading and hoping you can help me as I would greatly appreciate it.
Regards,
Ash
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:12 pm
by CR001
Have the English qualifications for Life in the UK
What English qualification do you have? The English language requirement and LIUK are two separate things and requirements.
Am I right in thinking I need to fill in the AN form for naturalisation + British passport form?
Yes, if you apply through NCS you complete both if you want to do the joint citizen and passport application. If you only want to do citizenship, you only complete form AN and passport application will be separate once you are British and have attended your ceremony.
I am also looking to change my Surname, Would you recommend me doing this after I have received my british passport OR could this be done in the process of the application ( I understand I will need to apply for a deedpoll)
Strongly recommend you do this AFTER you eventually get your British passport. If you choose to do it before, you will have to change your foreign passport too before applying for citizenship.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:26 pm
by ashturbo
-Have the English qualifications for Life in the UK Is this B1 level English from an approved test/test provider?
I have a ESOL Skills for Life ( Speaking and Listening) (QCF)
Will this be sufficient?
Am I right in thinking I need to fill in the AN form for naturalisation + British passport form? Form AN is for British citizenship, the passport application is a separate form. You will only qualify for a British passport once you have been granted BC.
I am possibly thinking of doing a joint application.
Changing it now will complicate your application and is likely to delay a decision.
Thank you, I am going to leave this for later after the passport application
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:30 pm
by ashturbo
CR001 wrote:Have the English qualifications for Life in the UK
What English qualification do you have? The English language requirement and LIUK are two separate things and requirements.
Am I right in thinking I need to fill in the AN form for naturalisation + British passport form?
Yes, if you apply through NCS you complete both if you want to do the joint citizen and passport application. If you only want to do citizenship, you only complete form AN and passport application will be separate once you are British and have attended your ceremony.
I am also looking to change my Surname, Would you recommend me doing this after I have received my british passport OR could this be done in the process of the application ( I understand I will need to apply for a deedpoll)
Strongly recommend you do this AFTER you eventually get your British passport. If you choose to do it before, you will have to change your foreign passport too before applying for citizenship.
1. I have the ESOL skills for life ( Speaking and listening ) QCF
2. I would like to go for the joint application
3. I am definitely leaving the change of surname till after the british passport.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:35 pm
by CR001
1. I have the ESOL skills for life ( Speaking and listening ) QCF
When did you do this test? ESOL is no longer accepted. You will likely need to do another test form one of the approved test providers. See
FAQs English Language Requirement for citizenship (click)
2. I would like to go for the joint application
Suggest check with your council NCS, they will provide you with some basic info on what they require and the cost of their service.
3. I am definitely leaving the change of surname till after the british passport.
Very wise.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:40 pm
by ashturbo
CR001 wrote:1. I have the ESOL skills for life ( Speaking and listening ) QCF
When did you do this test? ESOL is no longer accepted. You will likely need to do another test form one of the approved test providers. See
FAQs English Language Requirement for citizenship (click)
2. I would like to go for the joint application
Suggest check with your council NCS, they will provide you with some basic info on what they require and the cost of their service.
3. I am definitely leaving the change of surname till after the british passport.
Very wise.
Hi, Thanks for the speedy reply.
1. The test was done May 2015, It says Pearson Edexcel level 1 Award at the top. ( this is what I was recommended by a local test centre)
2. I have checked the local council and they have a NCS so will go with that.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:46 pm
by CR001
ESOL is no longer accepted for application made after 12th November 2015.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... entres.pdf
Q5 in the link below is relevant to you.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 98118.html
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:59 pm
by ashturbo
I am so glad I asked on here as I would never have known about this, I will be going back to the place to get this updated.
I will now get this final piece of the puzzle and send the application off using nationality check service via council.
Thank you once again for your help guys.
I do have another question which is regarding my sisters passport, she has indian passport but she has a long stay permit and not ILR, Will she need to apply for ILR first or can we apply using the long stay permit, time in uk is 10+ years.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:08 pm
by CR001
What do you mean by 'long stay permit'? There is no such visa category. What exactly does her 'permit' say?
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:14 pm
by ashturbo
CR001 wrote:What do you mean by 'long stay permit'? There is no such visa category. What exactly does her 'permit' say?
Just asked her, Its a permanent resident card for UK on an indian passport
Thanks
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:16 pm
by CR001
Permanent Residence is the same as ILR but PR is gained through the EEA route whereas ILR is obtained through the UK immigration route. Is she a family member of an EU citizen? What is her full immigration history?
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:24 pm
by ashturbo
CR001 wrote:Permanent Residence is the same as ILR but PR is gained through the EEA route whereas ILR is obtained through the UK immigration route. Is she a family member of an EU citizen? What is her full immigration history?
Oh okay, She was born in India, Father is Portuguese who moved to the UK in the 90s (had a Portuguese passport back then ) and now holds a british passport.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:27 pm
by CR001
Did both of you follow the same immigration route through your father?
If she has permanent residency, if that is what the sticker in her passport says, then she can apply for citizenship too.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:34 pm
by ashturbo
CR001 wrote:Did both of you follow the same immigration route through your father?
If she has permanent residency, if that is what the sticker in her passport says, then she can apply for citizenship too.
Yes it says permanent residency for UK, So she wont need to apply for the ILR?
We come to stay with my father in the UK, For some reason I was granted the ILR and she was given the PR.
I will let her know that she won't have to apply for ILR for the naturalisation and british passport.
She just needs to sort out the B1 etc + Life in the UK test.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:36 pm
by ashturbo
I have just booked my Grade 5 B1 Test for Wednesday
Thank you once again for all your help and without you guys, It would of seriously delayed my application as I would of went to the NCS only to find that my B1 is no longer valid.
Hopefully I will pass the B1 and when I have that will proceed with the NCS and then the final wait for my British passport

Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:37 pm
by CR001
As long as your test providers is on the HO approved list, you should be fine.
Glad you asked before applying

Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:39 pm
by ohara
Judging by how good your written English on this forum is, you should have no problem with the B1 spoken test.
Good luck.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:17 pm
by ashturbo
CR001 wrote:As long as your test providers is on the HO approved list, you should be fine.
Glad you asked before applying

Yep, booked in at Trinity SELT Holborn. Thanks for the info CR001
ohara wrote:Judging by how good your written English on this forum is, you should have no problem with the B1 spoken test.
Good luck.
Cheers for the heads up

Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:14 pm
by ashturbo
Evening all,
Just to let you guys know I passed the exam this morning at Holborn (all A's) haha
Thanks for all your help and I do really appreciate you guys for all the information provided.
Regards,
Ash
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:23 pm
by ohara
Congrats. I got a distinction on mine too but then again I have been speaking mainly English for the last 25 years
What did you choose for your topic?
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:00 pm
by ashturbo
ohara wrote:Congrats. I got a distinction on mine too but then again I have been speaking mainly English for the last 25 years
What did you choose for your topic?
I picked "Technology" , The examiner was cracking up with laughter after I finished explaining how driverless cars work.
Re: ILR Status, Applying for British passport
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:21 am
by ohara
ashturbo wrote:ohara wrote:Congrats. I got a distinction on mine too but then again I have been speaking mainly English for the last 25 years
What did you choose for your topic?
I picked "Technology" , The examiner was cracking up with laughter after I finished explaining how driverless cars work.
Ha yes, I chose photography for mine as I am a photographer. When I waked in to the test room I said straight away "this shouldn't be difficult; I'm a native English speaker"
It got quite technical and at one point I was explaining the inner workings of a digital SLR camera and how things like phase detection auto focus work.