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BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:15 pm
by bravopapa
Dear all,
I apologize because i have asked this question before but i still seem to be confused
I am BC other than by descent ( was naturalised in the UK in 2018).
My daughter was born outside the UK this December 2020.
I am looking to apply for her British passport. What should I do?
1- Use the link below?
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports
The link does not give me the option to apply for her passport, unless I am wrong.
2- Or should i fill the MN1 form
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... 1-guidance
Please advise. Thanks very much
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:17 pm
by CULLINAN
Your child born abroad is born British by descent.
Follow Option 1 to apply for a British Passport directly.
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 pm
by bravopapa
Thanks very much
shall i put her DOB or shall i put mine (because i am representing her)?
In the question, ---Have you had a UK passport before?---
Are they referring to me or to her? sorry i am confused
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:22 pm
by CULLINAN
Also note, your child will not be able to pass British Citizenship by descent to next generation born outside UK.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm
by bravopapa
CULLINAN wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:22 pm
Also note, your child will
not be able to pass British Citizenship by descent to next generation born outside UK.
Thanks
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm
by CULLINAN
bravopapa wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Thanks very much
shall i put her DOB or shall i put mine (because i am representing her)?
In the question, ---Have you had a UK passport before?---
Are they referring to me or to her? sorry i am confused
Child is the applicant not you. You are filling the form on behalf of the child but fill as per child’s details.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:30 pm
by bravopapa
CULLINAN wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm
bravopapa wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Thanks very much
shall i put her DOB or shall i put mine (because i am representing her)?
In the question, ---Have you had a UK passport before?---
Are they referring to me or to her? sorry i am confused
Child is the applicant not you. You are filling the form on behalf of the child but fill as per child’s details.
Very clear thank you
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:04 pm
by bravopapa
Is Countersignatory needed when applying for first child passport outside the UK?
The rule states that the countersignatory must hold a British, Irish, EU, US or Commonwealth
passport which has not run out. Where am I supposed to find that person if i live outside Europe,UK, commonwealth and UK?
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:52 pm
by CULLINAN
bravopapa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:04 pm
Is Countersignatory needed when applying for first child passport outside the UK?
The rule states that the countersignatory must hold a British, Irish, EU, US or Commonwealth
passport which has not run out. Where am I supposed to find that person if i live outside Europe,UK, commonwealth and UK?
Is the checklist asking for it??
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:54 pm
by bravopapa
Thank you for your reply.
I think so. Please check page 15.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... the_uk.pdf
I hope i am understanding this wrong
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:17 pm
by CULLINAN
I have no sight of the overseas passport application. As of my understanding the identity is confirmed online. Counter signatory is usually needed for paper applications (I could be wrong?). You should follow the next steps as indicated by the online checklist and do not follow the paper guidance.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:35 pm
by bravopapa
Let me check. Up to now i was following these instructions:
https://www.passport.service.gov.uk/ove ... okies=true
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
by CULLINAN
Once you pay and submit the application online, it will generate a checklist.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:57 pm
by CR001
CULLINAN wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Once you pay and submit the application online, it will generate a checklist.
Applying from abroad is a paper form, not online.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:58 pm
by CULLINAN
CR001 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:57 pm
CULLINAN wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Once you pay and submit the application online, it will generate a checklist.
Applying from abroad is a paper form, not online.
Ops.. Thanks for the correction. Apologies @bravopapa.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:32 pm
by bravopapa
Thank you for the reply.
Then the countersignatory is compulsory which is a bit unfair if you dont know people with the right passports (EU, US, UK, etc) in the country where you reside.
i ll have to find countersignatory who live outside Morocco i have no choice
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 pm
by samaygrg
Had you registered your child as BC once after you had your BC? if she is not registered yet, you have to go for that first.
bravopapa wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:15 pm
Dear all,
I apologize because i have asked this question before but i still seem to be confused
I am BC other than by descent ( was naturalised in the UK in 2018).
My daughter was born outside the UK this December 2020.
I am looking to apply for her British passport. What should I do?
1- Use the link below?
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports
The link does not give me the option to apply for her passport, unless I am wrong.
2- Or should i fill the MN1 form
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... 1-guidance
Please advise. Thanks very much
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:50 pm
by CR001
samaygrg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 pm
Had you registered your child as BC once after you had your BC? if she is not registered yet, you have to go for that first.
Why does the op have to register the child as British first????
A child born abroad,to a person who is British other than by descent, is a British citizen by descent and applies for a passport directly.
Re: BC for Child Born Abroad
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:15 pm
by samaygrg
CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:50 pm
samaygrg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 pm
Had you registered your child as BC once after you had your BC? if she is not registered yet, you have to go for that first.
Why does the op have to register the child as British first????
A child born abroad,to a person who is British other than by descent, is a British citizen by descent and applies for a passport directly.
Ahh My bad! apologies!
Thank you CR001 for the prompt correction.
I think I needed a good pair of glasses, I read the child was born abroad in 2010..