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RTI FPS Query

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
by raj.m
Hi everyone,
I am applying for my ILR under the Tier 1 Ent 50K route. My question is in relation to the RTI FPS. I am showing two full time employees. One for 18 months and another for 6 months. The 18 months one has been with my company since 2013. My question is do I need to send his first ever FPS with my company since it is the only FPS which shows his start date. I am asking this as the rules changed this year in January. Following the changes, do I still need to send his first ever FPS to show his start date? Thanks

Re: RTI FPS Query

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:02 pm
by marcnath
raj.m wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
Hi everyone,
I am applying for my ILR under the Tier 1 Ent 50K route. My question is in relation to the RTI FPS. I am showing two full time employees. One for 18 months and another for 6 months. The 18 months one has been with my company since 2013. My question is do I need to send his first ever FPS with my company since it is the only FPS which shows his start date. I am asking this as the rules changed this year in January. Following the changes, do I still need to send his first ever FPS to show his start date? Thanks
Yes, the requirement for the start date to be in the FPS is no longer there, so you don't need to send the first FPS

Re: RTI FPS Query

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by raj.m
Thank you

Re: RTI FPS Query

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:12 pm
by seasky
marcnath wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:02 pm
raj.m wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
Hi everyone,
I am applying for my ILR under the Tier 1 Ent 50K route. My question is in relation to the RTI FPS. I am showing two full time employees. One for 18 months and another for 6 months. The 18 months one has been with my company since 2013. My question is do I need to send his first ever FPS with my company since it is the only FPS which shows his start date. I am asking this as the rules changed this year in January. Following the changes, do I still need to send his first ever FPS to show his start date? Thanks
Yes, the requirement for the start date to be in the FPS is no longer there, so you don't need to send the first FPS
I thought you have to send FPS, it just does not matter if it is written the start date

Re: RTI FPS Query

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:22 pm
by marcnath
seasky wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:12 pm
marcnath wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:02 pm
raj.m wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
Hi everyone,
I am applying for my ILR under the Tier 1 Ent 50K route. My question is in relation to the RTI FPS. I am showing two full time employees. One for 18 months and another for 6 months. The 18 months one has been with my company since 2013. My question is do I need to send his first ever FPS with my company since it is the only FPS which shows his start date. I am asking this as the rules changed this year in January. Following the changes, do I still need to send his first ever FPS to show his start date? Thanks
Yes, the requirement for the start date to be in the FPS is no longer there, so you don't need to send the first FPS
I thought you have to send FPS, it just does not matter if it is written the start date
This reply was specific to the OPs case. Since the employee started in the first period, there is no need to send the FPS with the start date again when claiming the employment for ILR. Under the old rules, that had to be sent because that would have been the only FPS with a start date

Re: RTI FPS Query

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:29 am
by raj.m
marcnath wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:22 pm
seasky wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:12 pm
marcnath wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:02 pm
raj.m wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
Hi everyone,
I am applying for my ILR under the Tier 1 Ent 50K route. My question is in relation to the RTI FPS. I am showing two full time employees. One for 18 months and another for 6 months. The 18 months one has been with my company since 2013. My question is do I need to send his first ever FPS with my company since it is the only FPS which shows his start date. I am asking this as the rules changed this year in January. Following the changes, do I still need to send his first ever FPS to show his start date? Thanks
Yes, the requirement for the start date to be in the FPS is no longer there, so you don't need to send the first FPS
I thought you have to send FPS, it just does not matter if it is written the start date
This reply was specific to the OPs case. Since the employee started in the first period, there is no need to send the FPS with the start date again when claiming the employment for ILR. Under the old rules, that had to be sent because that would have been the only FPS with a start date
By the first ever FPS, I meant first ever FPS in which this employee in question was included and NOT the first ever FPS for the company that was sent to HMRC.

So, just to clarify, there is no requirement to send Employee's first FPS in which his start date is shown...right?

And, I remember when I applied for my extension in 2016, there was a requirement in the application form to mention the date when the first ever FPS for the company was sent to HMRC. Also, there was a requirement to send the first ever FPS for the company to UKBA to show them when we started reporting to HMRC in real time. Is this still the case for ILR application? Do I need to send them the very first FPS for the company with my ILR application?

Please clarify.

Many thanks :)

Re: RTI FPS Query

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:40 am
by marcnath
raj.m wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:29 am

So, just to clarify, there is no requirement to send Employee's first FPS in which his start date is shown...right?

Correct - that requirement has been removed.