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GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 pm
by Almina
Dear all, I've been employed on a KTP project from early 2023. Initially I was on SW visa and then I got GTV UKRI endorsed funder route in November for 4 years. I've been given another offer elsewhere which I can start in 3 months. The offer is a permanent job with better salary so it makes sense for me to switch to this job. That would mean I'd have to leave my project.
Can I still get ILR when 3 years are up, given that I have payslips from my current job demonstrating that I earned money in the field of my talent for some time even though haven't finished the project due to which I got the endorsement in the first place.
In my endorsement application, I had mentioned a relatively broad field of talent that can cover my new job as well (I think - but I'd like to know even if it isn't covered). Please advise. Has anyone been through similar situation lately? Thank you very much.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:05 pm
by lolo2
With a GTV you can do any job, even be self-employed, without telling UKVI or re-applying for a visa. Changing employers doesn't have any impact on future ILR applications.
As you rightly pointed out, one of the requirements is to demonstrate earnings in the specialist field at any time during your GT leave. Also ensure that your endorsement has not been withdrawn by the endorsing body at the time of the application for ILR.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:13 pm
by Almina
lolo2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:05 pm
With a GTV you can do any job, even be self-employed, without telling UKVI or re-applying for a visa. Changing employers doesn't have any impact on future ILR applications.
As you rightly pointed out, one of the requirements is to demonstrate earnings in the specialist field at any time during your GT leave. Also ensure that your endorsement has not been withdrawn by the endorsing body at the time of the application for ILR.
Can I please follow-up regarding the specialist field. While in my opinion the new job falls under what I wrote during the endorsement stage as the field of talent, say if for any reason they think the the new job doesn't fall under the specialist field. Can I only use the current job payslips and a requested letter from HR as the only proof of earnings in the specialist field. Apologies for the repetition but just wanting to cover all bases. Have there been similar cases where at the time of ILR application, the applicant was on a different field but only had proof from an earlier time during the same GT leave. Thank you very much.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:41 pm
by lolo2
Almina wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:13 pm
Have there been similar cases where at the time of ILR application, the applicant was on a different field but only had proof from an earlier time during the same GT leave
Yes, there are such cases. Use the search tool on this - and the ILR sub-forum - and you'll find cases of GTV holders who made successful ILR applications while working in a different or unrelated field to their endorsements.
Also it seems you've just started your immigration journey in the UK. Remember that these are the current rules, but the immigration rules in this country are constantly changing. There might be changes between now and the time you're eligible for ILR under this route, so keep that in mind.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:28 pm
by Almina
lolo2 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:41 pm
Almina wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:13 pm
Have there been similar cases where at the time of ILR application, the applicant was on a different field but only had proof from an earlier time during the same GT leave
Yes, there are such cases. Use the search tool on this - and the ILR sub-forum - and you'll find cases of GTV holders who made successful ILR applications while working in a different or unrelated field to their endorsements.
Also it seems you've just started your immigration journey in the UK. Remember that these are the current rules, but the immigration rules in this country are constantly changing. There might be changes between now and the time you're eligible for ILR under this route, so keep that in mind.
Many thanks for this useful answer. The other part is that the endorsing body should not have withdrawn their endorsement at the time of ILR application. I found one reddit answer where someone contacted UKRI about this and got the reply saying they usually don't withdraw. Is that the right assumption?
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:28 pm
by lolo2
It's rarely a good idea to assume things related to immigration, or in this case GT endorsements.
As commented, these rules are dynamic and constantly changing, but also there is no need to overthink about this. Again, with a GT visa you are free to work for any employer under the current circumstances.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:23 pm
by zimba
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:34 pm
by Almina
Thank you for this. It's getting clearer to me.
I understand there is no evidence needed from the applicant to demonstrate 'still being endorsed by the body'. I'm also trying to understand what possible scenarios could potentially lead to their withdrawal? and for example leaving this job wouldn't constitute that reason.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:45 pm
by zimba
Almina wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:34 pm
Thank you for this. It's getting clearer to me.
I understand there is no evidence needed from the applicant to demonstrate 'still being endorsed by the body'. I'm also trying to understand what possible scenarios could potentially lead to their withdrawal? and for example leaving this job wouldn't constitute that reason.
Endorsement-related issues are not immigration issues per se. Endorsement is just a prerequisite for the grant of a visa or ILR under this route. Any question on how maintaining endorsement will work or how/why an endorsing body may withdraw it should be asked directly from an endorsing body, not on an immigration forum. The point is that you must still be endorsed by the body when you are applying for ILR and show you earned money in the respective field, that's all from the immigration point of view
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:45 pm
by Max777
I sent the email to UKRi on the same issue, since I am in the similar situation, I started KTP few months ago, I am also thinking to switch jobs.
I sent the email to UKRI to confirm the affect on the endorsement incase if I leave the project on the basis of which I was endorsed.
They have sent this reply
Thank you for your email.
My understanding is that changing jobs will not have an impact on your endorsement/visa status.
Hope this is helpful and we wish you success in your future endeavours.
With regards to ILR confirmation, I tried to contact home office but they have so many helplines for different purposes. I have sent an email to a home office address, I will update the thread when I hear back from them.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:03 pm
by zimba
UKVI helpline is manned by third parties so there is no official immigration advice, you should not rely on the advice given. ILR requirements are quite clearly defined under the rules. There are no specific job requirements
I suggest reading the official guide:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -w-workers
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:08 pm
by SuSan85
I am also in the exact same position. I secured post doctoral research associate position, secured GTV under fast track endorsement.The position is for 2.5 years (contract), I also have similar questions.
What if I switch to another job?
I already finished 3 months and got 3 months salary slips.
But I received UkRI endorsement for getting this position, as uni submitted statement of guarantee and it shows clearly it’s 30 month contract. So if I switch to other job, will my endorsement be withdrawn?
Am I still eligible to apply to ILR after 33 months, if I switch my job right now and opt other job , provided I have 3 months pay slips in the designated field for which I have got my endorsement.
When UKRI endorsement is withdrawn? In what cases ?
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:26 pm
by zimba
SuSan85 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:08 pm
I am also in the exact same position. I secured post doctoral research associate position, secured GTV under fast track endorsement.The position is for 2.5 years (contract), I also have similar questions.
What if I switch to another job?
I already finished 3 months and got 3 months salary slips.
But I received UkRI endorsement for getting this position, as uni submitted statement of guarantee and it shows clearly it’s 30 month contract. So if I switch to other job, will my endorsement be withdrawn?
Am I still eligible to apply to ILR after 33 months, if I switch my job right now and opt other job , provided I have 3 months pay slips in the designated field for which I have got my endorsement.
When UKRI endorsement is withdrawn? In what cases ?
This has been answered now multiple times that there is no job requirement for ILR under this route, so this has NOTHING to do with your
eligibility for ILR. You simply need to show that you have earned money in your field and you should remain endorsed by your endorsing body. To know if you are still endorsed, you need to communicate with your endorsing body and as repeated before, this is not an immigration-related issue.
Re: GTV ILR if I leave my KTP position
Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 11:09 am
by tantan1051
Max777 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:45 pm
I sent the email to UKRi on the same issue, since I am in the similar situation, I started KTP few months ago, I am also thinking to switch jobs.
I sent the email to UKRI to confirm the affect on the endorsement incase if I leave the project on the basis of which I was endorsed.
They have sent this reply
Thank you for your email.
My understanding is that changing jobs will not have an impact on your endorsement/visa status.
Hope this is helpful and we wish you success in your future endeavours.
I am in the exact same situation Max777. I have received the endorsement and I'm waiting for my visa appointment to submit my biometrics. The work environment in my KTP isn't great and borderline dearly beloved, which is why I am trying to switch jobs. UKRI hasn't replied to my email asking about the conditions in which they withdraw their endorsement as my end goal is to get an ILR.
My only concern is: what happens if the base company cancels the KTP after I leave? They usually find a replacement KTP associate and the project goes on without any hinderance. But what if they cancel the funding, is it possible they withdraw their endorsement then?