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EEA4 Application

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:08 am
by Yem
I am planning to send my EEA application form to the home office, My wife has worked continously for 5 years apart from when she lost her job in May 2009 until she got a new job in Feb 2010. Unfortunately i have no proof she was looking for a job within this period, is this going to affect my application. i was working within this period and am considering sending my payslip to confirm that i supported our family.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:15 pm
by Lucapooka
It could be a problem as it's longer than six months (so residence might be considered as broken). If, during that time, she was self-sufficient on the basis of your salary, both of you would have needed sickness insurance, but I'm guessing you did not have this. I think all you can do is apply, say she was job-seeking and hope for the best.

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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:31 pm
by Yem
Lucapooka wrote:It could be a problem as it's longer than six months (so residence might be considered as broken). If, during that time, she was self-sufficient on the basis of your salary, both of you would have needed sickness insurance, but I'm guessing you did not have this. I think all you can do is apply, say she was job-seeking and hope for the best.
Thanks. She did a course within this period and she has a cretificate as prove, do you think this will help? Should i send copies of my payslip for 5yrs or just for the duration she didnt work? We have a 6yr old son, will this help?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:46 pm
by Lucapooka
Again, she would have needed CSI while studying. However, if she previously issued a registration cert. as a worker but then began studying after this, she would be covered by the transitional rules - See Appendix B. However, she was not actually issued an RC (and not many EU nationals actually bother to apply), then this concession can't be claimed.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binary

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:49 pm
by Yem
Lucapooka wrote:Again, she would have needed CSI while studying. However, if she previously issued a registration cert. as a worker but then began studying after this, she would be covered by the transitional rules - See Appendix B. However, she was not actually issued an RC (and not many EU nationals actually bother to apply), then this concession can't be claimed.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binary
Thanks for the quick reply. she actually has a workers registration certificate, should I include it in my application and will this help my case?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:53 pm
by Lucapooka
Actually no, she would have needed CSI. Sorry if I mislead you. Here is the wording of the annex which matches her circumstances.

5. Examples of when the transitional arrangements do not apply include, but are not limited to, the following:
EEA nationals who have already been issued with a registration certificate on another basis (for example as a worker) and who then became a student (but who did not reapply for a document confirming this before 20th June) will not be treated under these transitional arrangements. Such applicants must show evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance for any time spent in the UK as a student

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:09 pm
by Yem
Lucapooka wrote:Actually no, she would have needed CSI. Sorry if I mislead you. Here is the wording of the annex which matches her circumstances.

5. Examples of when the transitional arrangements do not apply include, but are not limited to, the following:
EEA nationals who have already been issued with a registration certificate on another basis (for example as a worker) and who then became a student (but who did not reapply for a document confirming this before 20th June) will not be treated under these transitional arrangements. Such applicants must show evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance for any time spent in the UK as a student
Thanks again. we have just found a document from the job center showing that she applied for jobseekers allowance shortly after she lost her job although the application was unsuccessful. will this document help me case?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:11 pm
by Lucapooka
Lucapooka wrote:I think all you can do is apply, say she was job-seeking and hope for the best.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:15 pm
by Yem
Lucapooka wrote:
Lucapooka wrote:I think all you can do is apply, say she was job-seeking and hope for the best.
Thanks. I will keep you updated.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:20 pm
by Lucapooka
Yes, in about six months time! These things take ages.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:37 pm
by Yem
Lucapooka wrote:Yes, in about six months time! These things take ages.
Hi all

Further to my question yesterday, i have been going thru the EEA4 application form and i found this on documents needed

"For time spent seeking work: this can include evidence of your EEA national family member’s unemployment such as letters from their last employer. Evidence thatthey have registered as unemployed with Jobcentre Plus or a recruitment agency.Evidence of them seeking work e.g. copies of application forms or letters of rejection or invite to interview from potential employers. Evidence of vocational or academic
qualifications.



I have evidence of vocational qualification during the period she was looking for work between May 2008 to Jan 2009 and i can also prove that i was working and had sufficient fund to support our family. Do i still need to provide CSI in this case?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:53 pm
by Lucapooka
You have to decide whether she was studying or job seeking. If she was job-seeking she would not need CSI, if she was studying she would. Obviously if you did not have CSI, the job-seeking approach is the best way forward. You just have to convince the UKBA of your case.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:00 pm
by Yem
Lucapooka wrote:You have to decide whether she was studying or job seeking. If she was job-seeking she would not need CSI, if she was studying she would. Obviously if you did not have CSI, the job-seeking approach is the best way forward. You just have to convince the UKBA of your case.
I think i will go with her seeking a job and hope for the best.
Thanks a bunch

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:04 am
by Yem
Yem wrote:
Lucapooka wrote:You have to decide whether she was studying or job seeking. If she was job-seeking she would not need CSI, if she was studying she would. Obviously if you did not have CSI, the job-seeking approach is the best way forward. You just have to convince the UKBA of your case.
I think i will go with her seeking a job and hope for the best.
Thanks a bunch
Hi All

Is it true that CSI was not enforced for students up until June 2011? if this is the case that means i wont need to provide CSI for the period my wife was looking for a job and did a vocational course between May 2008 and Jan 2009 wheni submit my EEA4 Application?

Thanks all