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Landlord refusing letter

Post by starrysky123 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:13 pm

Hi everyone,

Longterm lurker here and have run into a roadblock. My fiance's landlord has refused to write or even sign anything saying they are okay for me to live there. My fiance has asked if there was anything they would do letter-wise and said no. Their answer was she can live there if she wants but we aren't going to provide anything.

It is interesting because they were okay with it and stated via e-mail they would add me to the lease (once I had right to work). However, once it went to legal, they did a complete reverse and said no way and have basically refused to do anything. We pressed on why they are refusing and "no reason was provided".

Now they are basically dodging all calls from us. Honestly it is unlikely we will get anything from there. Is there any chance of it being approved without it?

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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by Zerubbabel » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm

Hello

Are you letting directly or through an agent? If through an agent, the agent can sign the letter.

The only thing that comes to mind, is that your landlord is hiding something like subletting a council accommodation or a property he doesn't own, or not paying taxes... If the property is not supposed to be rented by that landlord, it won't be suitable for visa purposes.

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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by starrysky123 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:00 pm

He is letting directly. I've seen before that maybe it could be due to taxes, etc. but it doesn't seem likely (not impossible though!) since they own an entire complex of 30+ flats.
Honestly I think it is because I am a foreigner. They were all happy to add a tenant until the details were provided, which obviously disclosed that I am not a UK citizen.

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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by seagul » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:27 pm

starrysky123 wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:00 pm
I've seen before that maybe it could be due to taxes, etc.
Not really rather most of them gets sheerly over worried about the amplification of wear & tear over their property. Ideally before signing to any tenancy the inner objective must be unveiled to the landlord/letting agent. Maybe on couple of more humble requests & reassurances you might succeed .
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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by TODMATT » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:22 am

starrysky123 wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:13 pm
Hi everyone,

Longterm lurker here and have run into a roadblock. My fiance's landlord has refused to write or even sign anything saying they are okay for me to live there. My fiance has asked if there was anything they would do letter-wise and said no. Their answer was she can live there if she wants but we aren't going to provide anything.

It is interesting because they were okay with it and stated via e-mail they would add me to the lease (once I had right to work). However, once it went to legal, they did a complete reverse and said no way and have basically refused to do anything. We pressed on why they are refusing and "no reason was provided".

Now they are basically dodging all calls from us. Honestly it is unlikely we will get anything from there. Is there any chance of it being approved without it?
I would try and get an inspection report to show the accommodation adequate enough and it is not overcrowded and this is exactly what happened to many applicants whose parents/relatives are living in a council/housing association. I have seen people replaced that with inspection report.
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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by Zerubbabel » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:02 am

The letting market in the UK can be very dodgy. I never trusted these private landlords who carry a ring full of keys like prison wardens. When I moved to the UK, before I found my first stable job, I rented a couple of times from these. At one occasion, we had an inspection from the Council as the guy was involved in some complex subletting scheme.

Some landlords don't like 2 people living the accommodation especially if it is small and/or some bills are already included in the rent. So they come from the rational that more people means higher utility bills.

But if the guy told you verbally it's OK to live with your partner but doesn't want to put that in a letter, it's a red flag for me.

Whenever you can, rent from agencies. Yes, you pay an initial fees but it does worth every penny as you never deal with the landlord directly and you are sure that your tenancy is lawful.

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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by seagul » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:37 am

Zerubbabel wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:02 am
The letting market in the UK can be very dodgy. I never trusted these private landlords who carry a ring full of keys like prison wardens. When I moved to the UK, before I found my first stable job, I rented a couple of times from these. At one occasion, we had an inspection from the Council as the guy was involved in some complex subletting scheme.
An astute tenant will never be astounded from any rhetoric property AD and before paying the large sum of rent & deposit will check the owner & type of ownership for only £3.
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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by seagul » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:50 am

***An inspection report can't replace the necessity of noc letter and even a landlord can disallow an unauthorized letting agent to perform it (if known). Usually a tenancy agreement is bit lengthy which many most often don't read in depth especially the clauses which breach the tenancy leading to the forfeiture of deposit.
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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by Zerubbabel » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:10 pm

seagul wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:37 am
Zerubbabel wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:02 am
The letting market in the UK can be very dodgy. I never trusted these private landlords who carry a ring full of keys like prison wardens. When I moved to the UK, before I found my first stable job, I rented a couple of times from these. At one occasion, we had an inspection from the Council as the guy was involved in some complex subletting scheme.
An astute tenant will never be astounded from any rhetoric property AD and before paying the large sum of rent & deposit will check the owner & type of ownership for only £3.
I wasn't astute when I moved to the UK ;) I was just looking for a cheap place to drop my bag and bam!

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Re: Landlord refusing letter

Post by ALKB » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:53 pm

Zerubbabel wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm
Hello

Are you letting directly or through an agent? If through an agent, the agent can sign the letter.

The only thing that comes to mind, is that your landlord is hiding something like subletting a council accommodation or a property he doesn't own, or not paying taxes... If the property is not supposed to be rented by that landlord, it won't be suitable for visa purposes.
I think it's the Right to Rent thing - they are afraid to make a mistake and be fined. They are happy to add OP to the tenancy after OP received leave to remain.
I am not a regulated immigration advisor. I am offering an opinion and not advice.

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