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PDF documents for FLR M

Post by mashandmaple » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:51 pm

Quick question about digital documents for FLR M extension.

Some of the documents we have are in digital pdf form, not in paper form. Is this an issue for the application process or must all documents physically exist on paper and be scanned in?

All the documents have all the proper graphics/company headers and are exactly what the company would have printed and sent. They aren't just website screenshots. None of the documents listed below have ever existed as a paper version, this is just how I received them.

We plan to upload all documents from home using the new document upload service. We've not used it before. From what I've read pdf is an accepted document type.

Documents affected:
  • 6 months of pay slips
  • P60
  • Letter from employer with employment details (NOT signed but from my HR department with an HR person's name on it)
  • Employment contract (hand-signed digitally using Adobe)
  • Water bill (with both names on. Can use 2 alternative paper docs for that time period instead)
I suppose I can print them out then scan them but that seems a bit wasteful, especially for the 22 page employment contract.

Anyone have experience with this? Thanks

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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by seagul » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:55 pm

mashandmaple wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:51 pm
Quick question about digital documents for FLR M extension.

Some of the documents we have are in digital pdf form, not in paper form. Is this an issue for the application process or must all documents physically exist on paper and be scanned in?

All the documents have all the proper graphics/company headers and are exactly what the company would have printed and sent. They aren't just website screenshots. None of the documents listed below have ever existed as a paper version, this is just how I received them.

We plan to upload all documents from home using the new document upload service. We've not used it before. From what I've read pdf is an accepted document type.

Documents affected:
  • 6 months of pay slips
  • P60
  • Letter from employer with employment details (NOT signed but from my HR department with an HR person's name on it)
  • Employment contract (hand-signed digitally using Adobe)
  • Water bill (with both names on. Can use 2 alternative paper docs for that time period instead)
I suppose I can print them out then scan them but that seems a bit wasteful, especially for the 22 page employment contract.

Anyone have experience with this? Thanks
All these documents can straight be uploaded without printing. You don't need employment contract rather a up-to-date employment letter.
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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by mashandmaple » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:10 pm

Thanks for the swift reply seagul, much appreciated.

I have a PDF letter from the employer which was written last week. I assume it's fine if it's not actually signed by the HR person? It has company header, is addressed to the Home Office and has all the necessary details.

Also it's fine if I have none of the aforementioned documents certified in some way, just the original PDF is acceptable?

The employment contract is an optional piece of evidence according to the online form so if I can I'm going to upload it.
A signed contract of employment - for Mr XX for YY
I know you get inundated with visa questions. Here's a different one for you. How has your day been so far?

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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by seagul » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:19 pm

mashandmaple wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:10 pm
Thanks for the swift reply seagul, much appreciated.

I have a PDF letter from the employer which was written last week. I assume it's fine if it's not actually signed by the HR person? It has company header, is addressed to the Home Office and has all the necessary details.
Conventionally all letters despite typed/printed on company's official stationary do need to be signed by the competent authority in the organisation such as HR/finance etc. However, due to social distancing, perhaps it won't be enforced/noticed
mashandmaple wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:10 pm
Also it's fine if I have none of the aforementioned documents certified in some way, just the original PDF is acceptable?
Original without any certification should be fine.
mashandmaple wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:10 pm
The employment contract is an optional piece of evidence according to the online form so if I can I'm going to upload it.
A signed contract of employment - for Mr XX for YY
No harm in attaching it then, but one thing keep in mind that the check list is generic covering wider range of scenarios including the one totally unrelated to you
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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by mashandmaple » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:32 am

Hello again, couple quick follow up questions.
  1. My employee letter is dated 6th November but we will be sending off the application tomorrow (14th Nov). Is that time gap fine? (I think I read it should be dated within 28 days of application)
  2. Payslips, requires 6 months. My payslips come at the end of the month. So if I only include 6 payslips then that only technically covers 5.5 months of time. So I should include 7 payslips and matching bank statements?

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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by mashandmaple » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:25 pm

Reposting and augmenting questions from previous post
  1. My employer letter is dated 6th November but we will be sending off the application tomorrow (14th Nov). Is that time gap fine? (I think I read it should be dated within 28 days of application)
  2. Payslips, requires 6 months. My payslips come at the end of the month. So if I only include 6 payslips then that only technically covers 5.5 months of time. So I should include 7 payslips and matching bank statements?
  3. First first FLM (M) application 2.5 years ago we didn't include any pictures/call logs/texts etc for proof of relationship. Are these actually necessary? We are married and visa was approved last time at a premium service.
  4. As previous mentioned I have the PDF versions of pay slips, never had paper copies. Do I need to get a letter from employer stating they are real if we're just uploading ourselves?

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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by seagul » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:11 pm

mashandmaple wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:25 pm
Reposting and augmenting questions from previous post
  1. My employer letter is dated 6th November but we will be sending off the application tomorrow (14th Nov). Is that time gap fine? (I think I read it should be dated within 28 days of application)
  2. Payslips, requires 6 months. My payslips come at the end of the month. So if I only include 6 payslips then that only technically covers 5.5 months of time. So I should include 7 payslips and matching bank statements?
  3. First first FLM (M) application 2.5 years ago we didn't include any pictures/call logs/texts etc for proof of relationship. Are these actually necessary? We are married and visa was approved last time at a premium service.
  4. As previous mentioned I have the PDF versions of pay slips, never had paper copies. Do I need to get a letter from employer stating they are real if we're just uploading ourselves?
1. Fine
2. You need to attach the payslips covering the required period and if that is covered through 7 payslips then make sure to attach them.
3. These are only needed when both partners living apart and are not needed for in country applications.
4. No need but no harm in doing so if wishes.
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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by mashandmaple » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:27 pm

Thank you, very helpful.

And another...

5. For the question "What is the start date of your current visa or leave to remain?":
My wife received a BRP for the first FLR(M) application. This BRP date of issue is June 2018.
She changed her name partway through the first FLR(M) period due to marriage. We made a TOC application (Transfer Of Conditions, I think) to the HO and received a new BRP with the updated name. This new BRP has a different Date of Issue, Feb 2019. Same "valid until" date.

For the above question from the application, are we meant to put the date of the original FLR(M) BRP date of issue, or the new name changed BRP date of issue?

I'm guessing the original June 2018 date as that's when the visa actually started but would like to clarify.

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Re: PDF documents for FLR M

Post by seagul » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:39 pm

mashandmaple wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:27 pm
Thank you, very helpful.

And another...

5. For the question "What is the start date of your current visa or leave to remain?":
My wife received a BRP for the first FLR(M) application. This BRP date of issue is June 2018.
She changed her name partway through the first FLR(M) period due to marriage. We made a TOC application (Transfer Of Conditions, I think) to the HO and received a new BRP with the updated name. This new BRP has a different Date of Issue, Feb 2019. Same "valid until" date.

For the above question from the application, are we meant to put the date of the original FLR(M) BRP date of issue, or the new name changed BRP date of issue?

I'm guessing the original June 2018 date as that's when the visa actually started but would like to clarify.
Your understanding is correct as that would be the date of first BRP card - June 2018.
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