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naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by skalag80 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:57 pm

Hi
Do you think whether i qualify?

I am Polish who would like to be naturalized as a British citizen.

Based on leaflet ¨BN7 - NATURALISATION AS A BRITISH CITIZEN¨
I fulfill requirements A: paragraph 2 a,b,c,d,e.

Considering requirement A. 2.f

I am an international civil servant. I live in Geneva (abroad) and I am employed by an international organization of which the UK is a member.
The service has started 03.2011 and is ongoing till 03.2016. After the service is finished I intend to buy a house in UK and live there.
Prior to this employment I have lived in UK for the period of 5 years and 5 months (starting 11.2005) obtaining PhD and working part-time.

Based on my circumstances described above I do not meet all residential requirements set out in paragraph 3.
I visit UK quite often. I have never breached of the immigration laws and I was not subject to any time limit under the immigration laws.

However I believe that I meet requirements described in paragraph 5 of the leaflet which are alternatives to the residential requirements set out in paragraph 3.

Based on my circumstances do you think that I could qualify for British naturalization?

Thanks

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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by milan69 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:58 pm

You would have to have been a UK resident for the last 5 years and hold ILR for one year before you can apply.
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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by Amber » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:39 am

If you have PR as appears to be the case (rather than ILR) it may be lost now if you've been out the UK for 2 or more years.
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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by skalag80 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:42 am

so being an international civil servant working abroad does not count? most of organizations are overseas.

Working for an international organization of which the UK is a member doesnt mean you are Crown resident ??

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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by Amber » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:02 am

Chapter 6 wrote:6.7 Revoking a document certifying permanent residence or permanent residence
card

Permanent Residence can be revoked on the basis of Public Policy, Public Health, or
Public Security or if the EEA national and/or non-EEA national family member has
been away from the UK for more than 2 consecutive years.
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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by winterwonders » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:10 am

Dear Skalag80,
I wondered whether you have concluded your search for advice.
I am, bizarrely, in the same position. Would love to hear any conclusions,

Thanks

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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by noajthan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:55 pm

skalag80 wrote:so being an international civil servant working abroad does not count? most of organizations are overseas.

Working for an international organization of which the UK is a member doesnt mean you are Crown resident ??
See guidance for Crown Service:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... annexc.pdf
In general, an applicant is in Crown service if:

in an established permanent position, which can include a fixed-term appointment; and

paid for his/her service directly from funds voted by Parliament; and

rendering service direct to the Crown

Honorary appointments, for example as legal adviser to a British Embassy or High Commission, are not necessarily excluded from this definition
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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by noajthan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:13 pm

Note evidence of outstanding service in Crown Service is required.

See section 4 of guide:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _final.pdf
Naturalisation is not a reward for long service under the British Crown, and is rarely granted on this basis.
See more in section 10 of booklet:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... n_2015.pdf

See Annex A for list of types of Crown Service:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... structions
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Re: naturalisation for an international civil servants

Post by noajthan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:37 pm

skalag80 wrote:Hi
Do you think whether i qualify?

I am Polish who would like to be naturalized as a British citizen.

Based on leaflet ¨BN7 - NATURALISATION AS A BRITISH CITIZEN¨
I fulfill requirements A: paragraph 2 a,b,c,d,e.

Considering requirement A. 2.f

I am an international civil servant. I live in Geneva (abroad) and I am employed by an international organization of which the UK is a member.
The service has started 03.2011 and is ongoing till 03.2016. After the service is finished I intend to buy a house in UK and live there.
Prior to this employment I have lived in UK for the period of 5 years and 5 months (starting 11.2005) obtaining PhD and working part-time.

Based on my circumstances described above I do not meet all residential requirements set out in paragraph 3.
I visit UK quite often. I have never breached of the immigration laws and I was not subject to any time limit under the immigration laws.

However I believe that I meet requirements described in paragraph 5 of the leaflet which are alternatives to the residential requirements set out in paragraph 3.

Based on my circumstances do you think that I could qualify for British naturalization?

Thanks
Form BN7 seems to be no longer readily available on the Gov UK website.

The requirements to achieve naturalisation due to Crown Service seem somewhat rigorous & are (apparently) rarely fulfilled.
On the balance of probabilities it seems unlikely you could rely on them.

Based on current HO guidance (see links in post above) ...

You may have acquired settled status in UK (automatically, as PR) as a qualified person exercising treaty rights (as a student &/or worker) at some time in late 2010.

This would depend on whether you met any requirement in place at the time to:
a) hold CSI (as a student)
&
b) to register (as a worker) on WRS (because Poland is an A8 country)

However, assuming you had acquired PR, you did not qualify for naturalisation at that time as you were not free from immigration time restrictions for the subsequent 12 month period;
(only 6 months until you left UK).

Any settled status will now have lapsed due to absence from UK for over 2 years.

If you do return to UK & start exercising treaty rights as a qualified person your PR clock will start up from zero;
(assuming UK remains in EU post-2016 referendum).
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