Can I be sponsored by my mother?

[Mensur]

My mother is British but she was not born in the UK so therefore I am not eligible to get British Citizenship through her as far as I know. I'm not even allowed to get an ancestry visa because I don't come from a Common Wealth Country. However my mother is setting up a hotel business in the UK very soon. She plans to buy a hotel and to run it. Is there any chance she can sponsor me and hire me at her hotel? I have a diploma in Hotel management and I'm fluent in English. I just want to know if she can sponsor me to work in her hotel in the UK or even just Sponsor me as being part of her family while she is working in the UK.

[physicskate]

My mother is British but she was not born in the UK so therefore I am not eligible to get British Citizenship through her as far as I know. I'm not even allowed to get an ancestry visa because I don't come from a Common Wealth Country. However my mother is setting up a hotel business in the UK very soon. She plans to buy a hotel and to run it. Is there any chance she can sponsor me and hire me at her hotel? I have a diploma in Hotel management and I'm fluent in English. I just want to know if she can sponsor me to work in her hotel in the UK or even just Sponsor me as being part of her family while she is working in the UK.

Were you born before or after January 1, 1983?

What country were you born in?

Check out:
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen

[Mensur]

I was born before January 1st 1983 and I wasn't born in British Commonwealth country. I know I'm not entitled because of this for British Citizenship as far as I know. What I want to know is if my British mother can sponsor me and hire me in her hotel in the UK? Or even if she can just sponsor me in the UK for being part of her family, while she is working in the UK.

[physicskate]

I was born before January 1st 1983 and I wasn't born in British Commonwealth country. I know I'm not entitled because of this for British Citizenship as far as I know. What I want to know is if my British mother can sponsor me and hire me in her hotel in the UK? Or even if she can just sponsor me in the UK for being part of her family, while she is working in the UK.

I do not believe any code of practise is at the required skill level for hotel work. Check the codes of practise:
(when I post links they tend not to work so just google UKVI codes of practise and click the first pdf...)

You are looking for a matching job description that is at or above NQF 6.

Even if there is a post for hotel work that is at nqf level 6, you would have to pass the resident labour market test, which is designed to signify that there is not a single other qualified person in the entire UK or EU that could do the job! So, as you can imagine, this is HUGELY unlikely for hotel work...

[Mensur]

Oh I see what your saying, but can't I just be sponsored by my British mum as a family member? Many people who come to work in the UK bring their non EU parents, spouses, children and other family members...can't I get a visa that way?

[physicskate]

Oh I see what your saying, but can't I just be sponsored by my British mum as a family member? Many people who come to work in the UK bring their non EU parents, spouses, children and other family members...can't I get a visa that way?

Spouses and minor children, yes. But chain immigration has been broken. I can't see it if you are able to support yourself and live independently (as you presumably already are). You are above the age of 31 (born before 1983), so you are not a minor, nor are you a 'dependent.'

This sort of immigration is only available to EU migrants exercising their treaty rights.

[Mensur]

Yeah what you say is very true, However wasn't there this Surinder Singh loophole that British citizens married to Non EU citizens have been taking advantage of. As far as I understand it, these couples as a result of the European freedom of movement, move to mainland Europe, where the British spouse works there for three months in order to exercise her treaty rights. Now I know they are husband and wife, but can my mum do something similar with her being my mother? Or does this not apply?

[physicskate]

Yeah what you say is very true, However wasn't there this Surinder Singh loophole that British citizens married to Non EU citizens have been taking advantage of. As far as I understand it, these couples as a result of the European freedom of movement, move to mainland Europe, where the British spouse works there for three months in order to exercise her treaty rights. Now I know they are husband and wife, but can my mum do something similar with her being my mother? Or does this not apply?

This route has been made more difficult as the UK citizen is now required to move the 'centre of life' to the other EU country. Generally this is taken to mean they must give up UK ties (which would be difficult with owning a hotel) and takes between 6 months and a year or so...

Also, I believe you would still need to prove that you are a dependent of your mother. But I could be wrong on that point. EU routes are not my main area of interest or 'expertise.'

[Mensur]

Thanks for your reply and response, it is informative. So even if this route has been more difficult than it was...it might still be possible. Also I know kids are dependents, but what really entails a dependent. Hypothetically speaking, I mean if I am still living with my mother in my thirties without a job, then technically it could be argued that I am dependent on her. It is feasible that this could be the case. There are many people in the west let alone the third world countries where the children still live at their parents in their late 20's and in their 30's. Jobs are not easy for everyone to come by these days especially after the financial crisis.

[ECOTROT]

Tier 1 Entrepreneur? If you can free up £200k and can make a serious business plan, drawing on your qualifications and experience, then you would be eligible for this visa. It is difficult to say without knowing your finances, but if your mother has the funds and trusts you (!) this could be a good option. Your mother could transfer 200k to your personal account and you would immediately meet the available funds requirement. You could then transfer the money into the business account. I would recommend researching this visa at least.

Tier 2 is also an option, but it will take much longer, and will be more expensive. Your mother's business will need to be up and trading to get a sponsorship licence. The licence application process will take 2-4 weeks, but will be more difficult for a new company. Then you will need the RLMT (at least 28 days). Then you will need to apply for a restricted CoS, which may raise questions when it is for the business owner's child. Finally you will need to apply for the visa from your resident country. The NQF level requirement can easily be sidestepped by creating the need for a NQF job. But the process takes alot longer and you may run into other problems.

If you are over 18, the family routes are alot more difficult.

I'd recommend looking into Tier 1 Entrepreneur because it sounds to me a possible option.

Good luck!

[Mensur]

@ECOTROT thanks for the honest advice, I looked up the Entrepreneur visa a while back and yes while I can get my hands on £200,000 from my mother, I heard that even if you have the £200,000 and a decent business plan, many applications get rejected even if all the requirements are fulfilled. I also heard that it can take over a year after application for a decision to be made. Moreover, although I can get the £200,000 and I can come up with a good business plan. There are other complexities like extra money to buy the actual business(that will be excluding the £200,000 which is not to be used in buying the business) and also the fact that a minimum of two employees(2 new created jobs) have to be hired for this visa to be extended after 3 years. These things all make the situation with the entrepreneur visa a little harder, although I still have it as an option in mind.

The ancestry route is something else I thought about, as my mother is British but just like me, she wasn't born in the UK. Both her parents were born in the UK though and so were the rest of her ancestors. I thought of some of these buy citizenship schemes. Dominca seemed the most tempting of all as they were the least expensive. They require a donation of $100,000, which is quite a lot of references. They also ask for many referee's to write references about me and they must have known me for 5 years. This in my situation is a little difficult. If only poor Commonwealth countries sold their citizenships. Poor countries like Rwanda, Lesotho, Siera Leone, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka would benefit if they sold their citizenships. If only they actually sold their citizenships and for a lower donation than $100,000 which is a significant amount of money. If these countries charged for $50,000 I'd happily pay, even if it was $60,000. These countries would benefit by selling their citizenships for those sums of money. Why don't these poor countries sell their citizenship.

[vinny]

Was your mother's father in the crown service whe she was born?

[Mensur]

No vinny he wasn't, I checked that years ago and I know what your talking about. Unfortunately for me, he wasn't.