Overstayed, working, any hope?

[degreef]

I came to the UK on a visitors' visa when my home country was not on the list for visa requirements in Dec, 2002. Now, i have been working for the same company for three years in a warehouse with my fake NI. I have with me an eleven year old sibling and a partner.

My home country's constitution revokes a person's citizenship if the person has been outside the country for a period of seven years and in that period the person did not register with the country representative in that his/her country of residence. Thus, very soon, if the curtain does not fall on me, i shall become stateless.

How would Administrative Removal work in such a case?

[sakura]

I came to the UK on a visitors' visa when my home country was not on the list for visa requirements in Dec, 2002. Now, i have been working for the same company for three years in a warehouse with my fake NI. I have with me an eleven year old sibling and a partner.

My home country's constitution revokes a person's citizenship if the person has been outside the country for a period of seven years and in that period the person did not register with the country representative in that his/her country of residence. Thus, very soon, if the curtain does not fall on me, i shall become stateless.

How would Administrative Removal work in such a case?

It would be nice if you can provide more details;
1. when did your sibling, and partner, enter the UK?
2. what country are you all from?
3. do you have any evidence of this revocation of citizenship from your country of origin?
4. have you had any contact with the Home Office since entering the UK (i.e. anyway of trying to 'regularise' your stay)?

[degreef]

Partner entered in Oct, 2003 and sibling in Dec, 2005.
No communication whatsoever with HO except for the occasional brush on HO's inspections in earlier workplaces.

The constitution of Malawi reserves the right to revoke citizenship as stated in earlier post.

[badmaash]

personally it could be a good idea that you became stateless , as then you cant be deported

where will they deport you too ?

they cant

but what are the rules governing a stateless person that what we need to know

and also the goverment might be obliged to help you so you can get NASS support

so it aint that bad
i think

[degreef]

[quote="badmaash"]personally it could be a good idea that you became stateless , as then you cant be deported

where will they deport you too ?

they cant

but what are the rules governing a stateless person that what we need to know

and also the goverment might be obliged to help you so you can get NASS support

so it aint that bad
i think[/quote]

[degreef]

Thanks for your support.

However, i'm a person of means. Iam a holder of a B. Sc in Environmental Chemistry from the University of Malawi, which sadly has not been put to use for five solid years. Government handouts i do not need but government recognition; then positively i can contribute to society.

[Wanderer]

I think UK only recognises a person as stateless due to war.

[jimquk]

Surely the point is that

The constitution of Malawi reserves the right to revoke citizenship

You would only become stateless if Malawi actually revoked your citizenship. I'm afraid that yo will probably not be refused a passport, and moreover I suspect that Malawi does accept Home Office issued one-way travel documents to facilitate removal.

Also Badmaash wrote

the goverment might be obliged to help you so you can get NASS support

NO - this is only for people claiming asylum.

[degreef]

Of course, they would; 'carrot and stick theory.'

[sakura]

Believe me, there are probably loads of Malawi overstayers around the world who have not had their citizenship revoked. I don't think it would happen to you. You cannot 'choose' to become stateless (and, to be honest, it's a real slap in the face to those who really are stateless through no fault of their own). Plus, I'm sure the HO have ways of ensuring administrative removal to places like Malawi (I'm sure they already have!). So don't wait on this happening.

If you want the government to 'recognise' you, then go home and apply for a visa to return. There's no amnesty or anything that would help you, and you'll be waiting until 2016 before you can actually regularise your stay. Your partner would have to wait until 2017 and your sibling until 2019. What are they currently doing? Do they also have fake NI cards? Also, when they check your details at work, what documents do you provide them? Do you have any children?

[degreef]

Thanks everyone.