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samreenkazi
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Extension important question

Post by samreenkazi » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:22 pm

hi

I got my enterpreneur visa in june 2013 with my husband as my dependant. after getting the visa i left for pakistan and stayed for 4 months and also i didnot do any work in my company account as my husband is working fulltime and i had a new born baby. my accountant sent my company tax return to hmrc for year 13-14 and he told me that he has filed dormant account returns as there was no business transactions in my account. now from this year i have done 4 business contracts and receive money as well. now i am worried for my first year tax return and will i have problem when i apply for extension because of my 13/14 tax return?

thank you all
Mrs. khan

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Re: Extension important question

Post by samreenkazi » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:52 pm

Please senior members can you give me your advice on my question.

thank you
Mrs. khan
samreenkazi wrote:hi

I got my enterpreneur visa in june 2013 with my husband as my dependant. after getting the visa i left for pakistan and stayed for 4 months and also i didnot do any work in my company account as my husband is working fulltime and i had a new born baby. my accountant sent my company tax return to hmrc for year 13-14 and he told me that he has filed dormant account returns as there was no business transactions in my account. now from this year i have done 4 business contracts and receive money as well. now i am worried for my first year tax return and will i have problem when i apply for extension because of my 13/14 tax return?

thank you all
Mrs. khan

MTZ510
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Re: Extension important question

Post by MTZ510 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:09 pm

One of the requirements for extension is that you should have registered the business within six months of entering UK.
As you have said that you have a company and your accountant filed dormant accounts this means you didn't had a business bank account and you have not transferred the funds in to the business account. Even if you did not traded during that period if you had file the accounts showing money in business bank account and paying some expenses like accountant fees and legal fees etc. that would have helped. In my opinion you will have hard time to prove that you had established business in first year.

My advice seek some professional help.


samreenkazi wrote:hi

I got my enterpreneur visa in june 2013 with my husband as my dependant. after getting the visa i left for pakistan and stayed for 4 months and also i didnot do any work in my company account as my husband is working fulltime and i had a new born baby. my accountant sent my company tax return to hmrc for year 13-14 and he told me that he has filed dormant account returns as there was no business transactions in my account. now from this year i have done 4 business contracts and receive money as well. now i am worried for my first year tax return and will i have problem when i apply for extension because of my 13/14 tax return?

thank you all
Mrs. khan
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Re: Extension important question

Post by samreenkazi » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:15 pm

thank you for answer. i took 50k route within uk after my psw and on the guidelines it does not mention requirement to invest within 6 months. i might be wrong but can you clarify on this please.
MTZ510 wrote:One of the requirements for extension is that you should have registered the business within six months of entering UK.
As you have said that you have a company and your accountant filed dormant accounts this means you didn't had a business bank account and you have not transferred the funds in to the business account. Even if you did not traded during that period if you had file the accounts showing money in business bank account and paying some expenses like accountant fees and legal fees etc. that would have helped. In my opinion you will have hard time to prove that you had established business in first year.

My advice seek some professional help.


samreenkazi wrote:hi

I got my enterpreneur visa in june 2013 with my husband as my dependant. after getting the visa i left for pakistan and stayed for 4 months and also i didnot do any work in my company account as my husband is working fulltime and i had a new born baby. my accountant sent my company tax return to hmrc for year 13-14 and he told me that he has filed dormant account returns as there was no business transactions in my account. now from this year i have done 4 business contracts and receive money as well. now i am worried for my first year tax return and will i have problem when i apply for extension because of my 13/14 tax return?

thank you all
Mrs. khan

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Re: Extension important question

Post by MTZ510 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:40 pm

You can invest in 3 years but what i am saying is that if you had transferred some money in to your business account and even had paid few expenses like accountants fee, telephone bills etc from company bank account then you could have filed the accounts showing that your company was active and looking for contracts in first year.

Its not about investing its about being actively trading.
samreenkazi wrote:thank you for answer. i took 50k route within uk after my psw and on the guidelines it does not mention requirement to invest within 6 months. i might be wrong but can you clarify on this please.
Always help others..... it always come back to you.
Even if i know the answer ... i have this habit of confirming from others..

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Re: Extension important question

Post by samreenkazi » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:05 pm

yes you are right and i agree with you but i dont agree that it is necessary to prove trading in first 6 months. the guidelines for extension attributes for section B (to claim 20 points) says that:

"Section B registered within six months of entering
"You must have been registered as self-employed with HMRC, registered a new company in which you are a Director, or been registered as a Director of an existing company within the six months after entering the category"

i was registered as director of my company during this whole period even though there was no activity in my first year. the documents which are required to claim this 20 points are Current appointment report for the period covering the first 6 months as per the guidelines mentioned below:

"Director of a new or existing company
120. If you were a director of a new or existing company you must provide the following:
Current Appointment Report from Companies House: This will list the Directors of a company and the dates of their appointment. Even if you are no longer a Director of the same company, we require the Current Appointment Report for the date that you became a Director of that company.
If the date on the Current Appointment Report was more than 8 months after your specified date we will not award any points for this section."

Please carefully see that no where does it says that the company should have been trading during this time, but for the section C (to claim 15 points) of extension it adds this clause that the company should be trading at the time of extension:

"Directors
125. If you are a Director of a UK company when you apply you must provide:
A Current Appointment Report from Companies House:
A current appointment report will list the Directors of a company and the dates of their appointment. You must obtain a printout of the Current Appointment Report from Companies House.
126. The date of this document should be within the three months immediately before the date of this application.
127. The report must show your name, as named in your application form, as the Director of a business that is actively trading and not struck-off, or dissolved or in liquidation on the date that the printout was produced."

though i shouldve actively traded in initial period of my leave i am just trying to defend my position. please tell me your views on this point.

thank you
Mrs. khan
MTZ510 wrote:You can invest in 3 years but what i am saying is that if you had transferred some money in to your business account and even had paid few expenses like accountants fee, telephone bills etc from company bank account then you could have filed the accounts showing that your company was active and looking for contracts in first year.

Its not about investing its about being actively trading.
samreenkazi wrote:thank you for answer. i took 50k route within uk after my psw and on the guidelines it does not mention requirement to invest within 6 months. i might be wrong but can you clarify on this please.

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Re: Extension important question

Post by nasirkhan » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:32 pm

The requirements for extension are pretty clear which encompass everything HO wants from you as an entrepreneur. Do that and you will have nothing to worry about !

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Re: Extension important question

Post by samreenkazi » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:22 pm

thank you for your comment brother nasirkhan. i agree with you completely but i became worried when @MTZ510 mentioned in his first post that i will have a hard time with my extension. i am trying to prove my point to MTZ510 that i have complied with home office rules even though there is no business activity in my account initially. i would welcome other members to give their viewpoints.

thank you
Mrs. Khan
nasirkhan wrote:The requirements for extension are pretty clear which encompass everything HO wants from you as an entrepreneur. Do that and you will have nothing to worry about !

MTZ510
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Re: Extension important question

Post by MTZ510 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:57 pm

To be honest i am not an expert and am always looking for answers on this forum, my advice is to seek professional help if you are not sure about some thing and from your initial post i thought you have some sort of doubts but your later post suggested that you are pretty much sure that being not trading in first year isn't going to effect your extension.

Best of luck
samreenkazi wrote:thank you for your comment brother nasirkhan. i agree with you completely but i became worried when @MTZ510 mentioned in his first post that i will have a hard time with my extension. i am trying to prove my point to MTZ510 that i have complied with home office rules even though there is no business activity in my account initially. i would welcome other members to give their viewpoints.

thank you
Mrs. Khan
nasirkhan wrote:The requirements for extension are pretty clear which encompass everything HO wants from you as an entrepreneur. Do that and you will have nothing to worry about !
Always help others..... it always come back to you.
Even if i know the answer ... i have this habit of confirming from others..

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