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Family Relocation to France - Carte de Sejour.

Post by aus » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:25 am

I was hoping someone may be able to provide some advice to point me in the right direction. This is my family's situation...

My wife is Belgian and I am Australian and we have been married for 10 years. We have two children who are Belgian.

We have only lived in Australia until we recently moved to France. We plan to relocate here for a number of reasons. I have applied for a 'Carte de Sejour' at the local Mairie and this is still being processed. I am currently not working and we have bought money over to support ourselves. (but not indefinitely)

My wife is starting a job in the near future and I have recently been offered a job however I am unsure of where i stand in relation to being able to work. Will my Carte de Sejour allow me to work or is there another process that I need to follow.

Thanks in advance
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:13 pm

The EU citizen AND the non-Eu citizen can work from the time they arrive. The non-Eu citizen should apply for a Residence Card as soon as the EU citizen is working.

See http://eumovement.wordpress.com/directive-200438ec/ (very important!)
and http://eumovement.wordpress.com/info-france/

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Post by aus » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:22 pm

Thank you so much for your response.

It just seems to be such a confusing issue. The local Mairie have told me that when the Carte de Sejour is issued that they sometimes allow for people to work and at other times they do not allow for people to work. ie there are different types of Carte de Sejour??

Once again thanks for your response. The documents that you provided links to make this more straightforward.

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:25 pm

If your EU spouse is Resident in a member state, either because they are working or studying or are self sufficient, then you can also be resident. You are always allowed to work as far as I know.

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Post by Christophe » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:58 pm

aus wrote:It just seems to be such a confusing issue. The local Mairie have told me that when the Carte de Sejour is issued that they sometimes allow for people to work and at other times they do not allow for people to work. ie there are different types of Carte de Sejour??
I think the point is that the carte de séjour is just that - evidence of the holder's right to stay in France. Having a carte de séjour does not prove the right to work, which is determined on other grounds. In your case, you will have the right work, because you are the husband of a citizen of an EU country who will be exercising her treaty rights in France. (Someone else might be entitled to a carte de séjour on other grounds altogether, grounds that might not lead to the right to work.)

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:27 pm

A Residence Card is your best proof of right to work if you are the non-EU partner of an EU citizen

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Carte de Sejour - good only for France, or for EU as well?

Post by mmasc » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:51 pm

I'm an American who received a Carte de Sejour to live and work in France (my husband is French). My husband may take a job in the UK; will I be able to work in the UK using my carte de sejour, or is the work permit only valid in France? How - or can I - get a permit to live and work in the UK? Looking at the programs, it seems a bit difficult to receive the right to live and work in the UK for non-EU citizens - please tell me I'm wrong! :o

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Post by yankeegirl » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:50 pm

I'm an American who received a Carte de Sejour to live and work in France (my husband is French). My husband may take a job in the UK; will I be able to work in the UK using my carte de sejour, or is the work permit only valid in France? How - or can I - get a permit to live and work in the UK? Looking at the programs, it seems a bit difficult to receive the right to live and work in the UK for non-EU citizens - please tell me I'm wrong!
If you are coming to the UK with your husband what you will need to apply for is the EEA Family Permit.
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/servlet/Front ... 8721068382

The permit is valid for six months and once in the UK you can make an application using EEA2 form for a 5 year residence card. The permit allows you to start looking for employment as soon as you are in the UK.

You can apply for this from the British Embassy in France but will have to show your Carte de Sejour as evidence that you are legally resident in France.

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carte de sejour question re the UK

Post by mmasc » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:23 pm

Wow - what wonderful news! It has been very discouraging and complicated to try to get answers... Your post is as direct and practical as I could have wished for. I wish you were working at the consulates I spoke with.

I am more grateful than I can express for your time!


"I'm an American who received a Carte de Sejour to live and work in France (my husband is French). My husband may take a job in the UK; will I be able to work in the UK using my carte de sejour, or is the work permit only valid in France? How - or can I - get a permit to live and work in the UK? Looking at the programs, it seems a bit difficult to receive the right to live and work in the UK for non-EU citizens - please tell me I'm wrong!"

If you are coming to the UK with your husband what you will need to apply for is the EEA Family Permit.
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/servlet/Front ... 8721068382

The permit is valid for six months and once in the UK you can make an application using EEA2 form for a 5 year residence card. The permit allows you to start looking for employment as soon as you are in the UK.

You can apply for this from the British Embassy in France but will have to show your Carte de Sejour as evidence that you are legally resident in France."

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Re: Family Relocation to France - Carte de Sejour.

Post by JAJ » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:49 am

aus wrote:I was hoping someone may be able to provide some advice to point me in the right direction. This is my family's situation...

My wife is Belgian and I am Australian and we have been married for 10 years. We have two children who are Belgian.

We have only lived in Australia until we recently moved to France. We plan to relocate here for a number of reasons. I have applied for a 'Carte de Sejour' at the local Mairie and this is still being processed. I am currently not working and we have bought money over to support ourselves. (but not indefinitely)
Did your wife get her Australian citizenship before leaving?

It's a shame if not, as Belgium relaxed its laws on dual citizenship on 9 June 2007.

Presumably your children are also Australian?

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