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Long term schengan visa

Post by pahadia » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:23 pm

Hi,
I have a long term residency for Ireland & HSMP for UK. I am wondering if there is any way to get long term schengan visa(may be year or two) ?
As obvious reasons is to work in any country in Europe at any point of time. I work as IT consultant and work only contract jobs. There are short term contracts every where but visa is holding me back. I know its ideal dream for everybody :) but I like to find out if I can do anything else to achieve this.

PS: Please note, I am waiting for Irish citizenship which has 3 years waiting time.

Cheers!!!

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Post by Marie B » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:35 pm

I am wondering if there is any way to get long term schengan visa(may be year or two) ? As obvious reasons is to work in any country in Europe at any point of time.
As far as I know a Schengan visa does not allow you to work, it is a visitor visa. If you want to work in another EU state you have to apply for a work permit, each country has its own rules and visas. You would need a different one for each country you would like to work in.

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Re: Long term schengan visa

Post by sakura » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:42 pm

pahadia wrote:Hi,
I have a long term residency for Ireland & HSMP for UK. I am wondering if there is any way to get long term schengan visa(may be year or two) ?
As obvious reasons is to work in any country in Europe at any point of time. I work as IT consultant and work only contract jobs. There are short term contracts every where but visa is holding me back. I know its ideal dream for everybody :) but I like to find out if I can do anything else to achieve this.

PS: Please note, I am waiting for Irish citizenship which has 3 years waiting time.

Cheers!!!
You need to apply for a work permit for whichever country you want to work in. e.g. One for France, then one for Germany, etc. The Schengen visa is for travel purposes only, and anyway would only allow you to spend no more than (I think) 6 months in the EU area - for visit only.

I am sure you can hold work permits for more than one country (e.g. HSMP in UK and work permit in France, etc), but I don't see how you could maintain residency if you're travelling so often.

Are you in the UK or Ireland? Do you have PR in Ireland, but are living or working in N. Ireland? How exactly does your situation work?

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Post by archigabe » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:24 pm

There are plans for a Europe wide work permit, but don't know when they are going to implement it.

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:38 am

I suspect this is not the case, but.... If you are married to an EU citizen, then you and your spouse can travel together to other EU countries and work immediately (with no further permission required) for up to 3 months. If you want to stay for more than three months, then you can apply (in country) for a Residence Card.

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Post by pahadia » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:54 am

Well let me explain why I asked this question. I work in company where lots of contractors are coming from UK/Holland/Spain etc. They fly over every week. They are hired by agencies in their respective countries paying tax in their respective countries. They are EU national so they have no hassle of visa. I guess they are coming here as business traveller. But as far as tax or salaries are concern they are paying in their respective countries.

So I was thinking being resident in Ireland why can't I take Shengan visa & fly over every week and work in any European country as business traveller. I'll be paying all my taxes in Ireland (local agency will take care of it). What do you experts say ?

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Post by SYH » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:15 am

pahadia wrote:Well let me explain why I asked this question. I work in company where lots of contractors are coming from UK/Holland/Spain etc. They fly over every week. They are hired by agencies in their respective countries paying tax in their respective countries. They are EU national so they have no hassle of visa. I guess they are coming here as business traveller. But as far as tax or salaries are concern they are paying in their respective countries.

So I was thinking being resident in Ireland why can't I take Shengan visa & fly over every week and work in any European country as business traveller. I'll be paying all my taxes in Ireland (local agency will take care of it). What do you experts say ?
They are probably not paying tax in their respective countries unless they do not work more than 180 days in the country they are flying to.
Tax is a tricky subject so I wouldn't make that assumption. They may very well be paying income tax to another country, you don't know unless you ask so don't assume it.
Further you are not a citizen of any EU country thus you can't fly to any other country and work in that country unless you have a work visa for that country.
The schengen allows you to travel in Europe NOT work so I think you better forget looking at other countries to work

In order to work as a business traveller, it would have to be for a meeting or conference or training. not actually work
There are business visa for work for short stints but each country has different critieria. This is not going to work for you for now.
Wait for your citizenship for Ireland, then you can go gallavanting wherever you want to work.

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Re: Long term schengan visa

Post by SYH » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:20 am

pahadia wrote:Hi,
I have a long term residency for Ireland & HSMP for UK. I am wondering if there is any way to get long term schengan visa(may be year or two) ?
As obvious reasons is to work in any country in Europe at any point of time. I work as IT consultant and work only contract jobs. There are short term contracts every where but visa is holding me back. I know its ideal dream for everybody :) but I like to find out if I can do anything else to achieve this.

PS: Please note, I am waiting for Irish citizenship which has 3 years waiting time.

Cheers!!!
Why does it take so long?

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Post by Dawie » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:39 am

pahadia wrote:Well let me explain why I asked this question. I work in company where lots of contractors are coming from UK/Holland/Spain etc. They fly over every week. They are hired by agencies in their respective countries paying tax in their respective countries. They are EU national so they have no hassle of visa. I guess they are coming here as business traveller. But as far as tax or salaries are concern they are paying in their respective countries.

So I was thinking being resident in Ireland why can't I take Shengan visa & fly over every week and work in any European country as business traveller. I'll be paying all my taxes in Ireland (local agency will take care of it). What do you experts say ?
It doesn't matter where your salary is being paid, as a non-EU citizen you cannot work in any EU country without a work permit (unless you are married to an EU citizen and they will be joining you).

A business visit Schengen visa will not help you because a business visitor is not allowed to work either.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Re: Long term schengan visa

Post by pahadia » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:39 pm

[/quote]Why does it take so long?[/quote]

because Irish immigration system is too efficient :)

They have 12-15 months of waiting time to process Long term residency application and 32-36 months citizenship applications. Look at Ireland section on this website for lot more details....

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Re: Long term schengan visa

Post by SYH » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:41 pm

pahadia wrote:
Why does it take so long?[/quote]

because Irish immigration system is too efficient :)

They have 12-15 months of waiting time to process Long term residency application and 32-36 months citizenship applications. Look at Ireland section on this website for lot more details....[/quote]
No thank you
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Post by pahadia » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:54 pm

SYH wrote:
pahadia wrote:Well let me explain why I asked this question. I work in company where lots of contractors are coming from UK/Holland/Spain etc. They fly over every week. They are hired by agencies in their respective countries paying tax in their respective countries. They are EU national so they have no hassle of visa. I guess they are coming here as business traveller. But as far as tax or salaries are concern they are paying in their respective countries.

So I was thinking being resident in Ireland why can't I take Shengan visa & fly over every week and work in any European country as business traveller. I'll be paying all my taxes in Ireland (local agency will take care of it). What do you experts say ?
They are probably not paying tax in their respective countries unless they do not work more than 180 days in the country they are flying to.
Tax is a tricky subject so I wouldn't make that assumption. They may very well be paying income tax to another country, you don't know unless you ask so don't assume it.
Further you are not a citizen of any EU country thus you can't fly to any other country and work in that country unless you have a work visa for that country.
The schengen allows you to travel in Europe NOT work so I think you better forget looking at other countries to work

In order to work as a business traveller, it would have to be for a meeting or conference or training. not actually work
There are business visa for work for short stints but each country has different critieria. This is not going to work for you for now.
Wait for your citizenship for Ireland, then you can go gallavanting wherever you want to work.
Thanks for your respoense. I am quite sure they are paying tax in their respective countries as couple of them have told me so.
I guess I have not much options but to wait for citizenship. Looks like we been cursed for not being EU-citizens :D

I wonder how big companies (Accenture/TCS/Wipro/Bearing point etc) are managing their employees visas. As they all get paid in India but employees are roaming around (EU)on expensis...

PS : I am working with few of them.

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