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Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to UK?

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Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to UK?

Post by johniebristol » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:51 pm

Hi

I was wondering with the new RC rules introduced on 6th April if its still advisable to apply for FP before relocating to the UK. What are the benefits of the Non-EU citizen having FP?

Thanks

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Re: Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to U

Post by GMB » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:00 pm

The main value is for those people who normally require visas to enter the UK ("visa nationals"). If they are coming to the UK by air, it is highly unlikely an airline would permit them to board the flight without some evidence they have a right to enter the UK -- which is what the FP provides. For non-visa nationals, who would be allowed to board a flight to the UK anyway based on their nationality alone, it is of little to no value. For non-visa nationals entering via a land point of entry (ferry ports mainly), it would prevent them being delayed while they proved their right to enter the UK under EU law.

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Re: Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to U

Post by johniebristol » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:03 pm

Sorry. I should have included, if a person holds a European article 10 residence card, is there any value in them applying for FP now?

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Re: Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to U

Post by GMB » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:33 pm

Ahhh. Now I see. I honestly can't think of any advantage, assuming (if they are flying) that you can trust the airline check-in staff to comprehend the new rules. I'd have the new rules printed out and ready and show up early for check-in (again, assuming the person is flying).

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Re: Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to U

Post by johniebristol » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:30 am

So having FP wouldnt help with setting up life in the UK from day one? Like entitlement to NHS, finding a job, renting a house, etc?

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Re: Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to U

Post by el patron » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:18 am

johniebristol wrote:So having FP wouldnt help with setting up life in the UK from day one? Like entitlement to NHS, finding a job, renting a house, etc?
I would suggest that it would be easier with a family permit in respect of satisfying employers, G.P. surgery staff and the NINO application requirements, I would assume the various agencies will take some time to update protocols to give weight to the other member state residence documentation. It could be argued that if the residence in the UK is on a more or less permanent basis that the other member state residence card would no longer be valid?

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Re: Is it still advisable to apply for FP before moving to U

Post by manu_uk » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:40 am

I would do so. My experience (you can check it by yourself) is that some places don't even accept a family permit. For example some universities don't hire teachers if they don't have the EEA residence card.
Check this link:
http://www.hr.admin.cam.ac.uk/hr-servic ... sresidence
I think that others employers face the same situation.
Some companies do the same. Having so many candidates they prefer to be safe that check some EEA law.
Of course it depends on the kind of job you are looking for.

I think -my opinion- that the most important point is that the European member of the couple has a job to support your EEA residence card aplication.

Hope it helps!

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