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Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by yonee » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:31 am

Good day to all of you!

I am currently helping my aunt apply for Spouse Visa. Her husband is a British National and they met when she was studying in London. It sounds easy right? But it is a bit more complicated than that. She was on student visa while she stayed in London. She was supposed to renew her visa but she was rejected since apparently her application was filed out of time (her visa already expired). She also filed for Partner Visa after getting rejected for her student visa renewal, but was also rejected for failure to establish their relationship as real (they weren't married yet at that time). It was more than a year after the decision of refusal for granting partner visa did my aunt got back here in the Philippines. And as far as I know she did not receive any deportation order.

My questions are:
1. Would her history of visa application have adverse affects to her application for spouse visa?
2. Did she "overstay" and would it also have an adverse affect on her visa application?
3. Is there any law/rule stating that you should only have one certificate for establishing your knowledge of English (one of the reasons her student visa renewal application was rejected, as she submitted two instead of one)?
4. What other supporting documents can both of them submit aside from the ones listed in the UK website?

Any help will be tremendously appreciated. I've been reading around but I think I may need to tell her story to get some more specific information that can help them.

Thank you very much!

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by yonee » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:03 am

Forgot to ask also, what should my aunt's cover letter contain? Should it narrate their relationship or just a summary? Should it also narrate her previous visa applications?

Thanks again. :)

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by yonee » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:57 am

Another question: Should she put her immigration history on her cover letter? Or only on her application? Thank you.

Need help ASAP. If someone can give me a bit of info or opinion, it would really help. Thanks. :)

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by noajthan » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:53 pm

yonee wrote:Good day to all of you!

I am currently helping my aunt apply for Spouse Visa.

...

It was more than a year after the decision of refusal for granting partner visa did my aunt got back here in the Philippines. And as far as I know she did not receive any deportation order.

My questions are:
1. Would her history of visa application have adverse affects to her application for spouse visa?
2. Did she "overstay" and would it also have an adverse affect on her visa application?
3. Is there any law/rule stating that you should only have one certificate for establishing your knowledge of English (one of the reasons her student visa renewal application was rejected, as she submitted two instead of one)?
4. What other supporting documents can both of them submit aside from the ones listed in the UK website?

Any help will be tremendously appreciated. I've been reading around but I think I may need to tell her story to get some more specific information that can help them.

Thank you very much!
2. Depends on precise dates & any notice or letters received from HO.

3. No - that sounds bizarre. A legitimate & appropriate level of qualification is what is required.
Ref: https://www.gov.uk/english-language/overview

4. Provide adequate & convincing information to back up the application and show an endearing & enduring relationhip.
For example:
  • evidence of travel & meetings in person
    letters
    frequent & ongoing phone &/or online communication (just dates/times - not content)
    some carefully chosen photos together (don't go overboard;
    & etc
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by noajthan » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:05 pm

yonee wrote:Forgot to ask also, what should my aunt's cover letter contain? Should it narrate their relationship or just a summary? Should it also narrate her previous visa applications?

Thanks again. :)
The cover letter is the chance to show to HO officials that the applicant is a real live human with hopes, fears & ambitions.
Yes, outline the relationship but they won't want to read a book - so probably best to focus on edited highlights & an overall summary.

Leave the immigration history, previous visas etc to the specific questions on the form (that's what its for).
You want to use the letter to make your case in the best, most positive way possible - not show it in a poor light.

Keep it real (don't go over the top) and try to demonstrate the joint commitment the applicant has to a future with the intended other half;
share an overview of plans & ambitions for a future life together in the UK.

This is the kind of approach we adopted for my fiancee's visa application. Can't say if it specifically worked but we got the visa we wanted at the time (& with no questions or delay from HO).

As a rule give as much (legitimate & accurate) information as you can to support your case;
try not to give HO wriggle-room :!:
Keep a copy of your application & all the evidence submitted just for the record.

Best of luck.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by yonee » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:35 pm

noajthan wrote:
The cover letter is the chance to show to HO officials that the applicant is a real live human with hopes, fears & ambitions.
Yes, outline the relationship but they won't want to read a book - so probably best to focus on edited highlights & an overall summary.

Leave the immigration history, previous visas etc to the specific questions on the form (that's what its for).
You want to use the letter to make your case in the best, most positive way possible - not show it in a poor light.

Keep it real (don't go over the top) and try to demonstrate the joint commitment the applicant has to a future with the intended other half;
share an overview of plans & ambitions for a future life together in the UK.

This is the kind of approach we adopted for my fiancee's visa application. Can't say if it specifically worked but we got the visa we wanted at the time (& with no questions or delay from HO).

As a rule give as much (legitimate & accurate) information as you can to support your case;
try not to give HO wriggle-room :!:
Keep a copy of your application & all the evidence submitted just for the record.

Best of luck.
Thank you for your reply. It really helps a lot. :)

Another question, did you make a cover letter for the sponsor? And in that cover letter did you also outlined your relationship with your fiancee?

Thank you so much again!

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by Casa » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:31 pm

It's mandatory for the sponsor to provide a letter supporting the application.
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by yonee » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:25 pm

Casa wrote:It's mandatory for the sponsor to provide a letter supporting the application.
I also realized that while doing my research. It was one of the mistakes my aunt made when she first applied for partner visa, that she failed to include a letter from her husband.

So should the sponsor's letter also narrate their relationship? Or would a summary be enough along with stating other pertinent details (like capability to support his wife etc.)?

Thank you so much again for the reply :)

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by Casa » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:07 pm

A brief summary would be fine.
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

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Re: Spouse Visa Help (applying from Philippines)

Post by yonee » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:50 pm

Thanks to responding to my inquiries :)

In relation to this application, there is a need to furnish evidence to satisfy the financial requirements provided for by the Immigration Rules. I have a couple of questions for clarification.

In case of a self-employed sponsor/spouse, I read certain documents need to be provided (like the amount of tax payable for the last financial year and the like). If the self-employed sponsor is operating a limited company, would those documents required for an employee/shareholder of a limited company need to be also provided?

Also, if the applicant is fully sponsored by the spouse-sponsor British Citizen, does she need to provided some documents to prove her financial capabilities or would it be fine if her husband will be shouldering everything for her?

It would be great if there is a clearer list of evidence for financial requirements if you guys have one.

I hope I can hear a response soon. Thank you. :)

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