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Fiancé/e vs Marriage Visitor Visa

Post by pbaobab » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:08 am

Hello, I apologize if the situation that I intend to describe has been resolved in another thread before, I just haven't been able to find any posts that relate with some specific details.

I would like to ask which would be the best option to apply for
* Fiancé/e Visa: https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk
or
* Marriage Visitor Visa: https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa/overview

If I am currently living with my boyfriend in the UK, but will go back to my home country next month, and apply from there, and I would like to apply for the right kind of visa, since I am from outside the EEA and he has just told me that he might be promoted in his job, but sent to Asia in the next months, after we marry, SO that changes a lot of what I had in mind as procedure and documents.
I don't know if I should contact the embassy from the country he might be sent to, at the same time, or if it would be necessary, if I should just wait or if I could travel with him as his wife, or I would need to switch to a Spouse visa once married and until then would be able to travel there with him.

It sounds like a nightmare, because it gets more complicated each time.

Also, I would like to ask if the document suggested to prove one is free to marry (Nulla Osta or CNI) would be necessary for either of us (neither of us has ever been married before), even if we intend to marry in the UK, not abroad, and if at least I would need it, does it need to be apostilled or not.

Thank you in advance for any advice.

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Re: Fiancé/e vs Marriage Visitor Visa

Post by Casa » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:17 am

1. A Marriage visitor visa is for someone who wants to marry in the UK and intends to leave after the wedding.
2. A Fiance visa is the first step towards settlement. You would have six months in which to marry in the UK and after the wedding (before the fiance visa expires) you would apply for a FLR(M) extension. This would grant you an initial 2.5 years as a spouse, which would then have to be extended again for a further 2.5 years before qualifying for permanent settlement (ILR).

If you marry in the UK you don't require a certificate of no impediment.

You say that you are currently living with your boyfriend in the UK. What category of visa do you have at present?
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Re: Fiancé/e vs Marriage Visitor Visa

Post by pbaobab » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:28 am

Yes, I was counting on those steps for settlement, first applying for a Fiancé/e visa first, then, if granted, to change for a Spouse visa.

But then again, he might be sent to another place, and perhaps we might need to apply for a totally different type (Marriage Visitor Visa), he isn't sure yet, though, he might get to know whilst I am gone.

I applied/was granted a General Visitor Visa earlier this year, (Type C, mult. entry, for 6 months) and it will expire next month, so I am going back home and apply from there, because visitors cannot just switch to any other kind of visas.

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Re: Fiancé/e vs Marriage Visitor Visa

Post by pbaobab » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:09 pm

I have another doubt, please forgive me if I ask too many questions.

For the Marriage Visitor Visa type, it is suggested that one presents a notification of marriage at the register office https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa/docume ... st-provide, but I don't know if we can do it, because here it says that I will need a visa for the UK to do it: https://www.gov.uk/marriages-civil-part ... n-national

So, my question is: Can we give notice or do a provisional registry office booking while I am still here in order to use it for my visa application or not?
It just makes no sense that it is a suggested document, to help to ask for a Marriage Visitor Visa but it can't be done unless I have a visa to do so.

Thank you in advance and again for any help.

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Overstayed in Switzerland, please someone advice

Post by pbaobab » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:34 pm

As I am filling the application for a new visa, a specific detail haunts/worries me to no end.

I am willing to apply for a Fiancé/e visa for the UK, but there is a detail from my past, that I don't know if to bring up in my application, in the section where it asks about any trips made out of my home country in the last 10 years, and most of them are legit, regarding dates and details, but in early 2007, I visited Switzerland and overstayed for a few months, to the point that I had to renew my passport in Paris and when I returned home, via Germany, an officer remarked my overstay and questioned me, then I simply told him that I ignored I was allowed to stay legally only for 90 days, in a period of 6 months, and he did let me pass, without issuing a report, or at least told me to just carry on.

It worries me, because I do not want to lie at the application where it asks about the duration of each trip, and at the same time, if I point that out (in the extra space, just in case one wants to add anything), I don't know if I am just cutting my own throat. My boyfriend tells me just to not worry, that I am not a criminal, that I won't be banned, but again, I do not know what to do, if:
a) Tell a little white lie and hope they don't check my passports stamps thoroughly, or b) Tell what happened, even if its a long and boring detail from my past and the bad decisions I made then, but again perhaps they will have a bad image of me and reject my application on those grounds :(

Thank you in advance for any advice.

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Re: Overstayed in Switzerland, please someone advice

Post by Wanderer » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:56 pm

Get caught in a lie, kiss visa bye-bye.......
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: Overstayed in Switzerland, please someone advice

Post by pbaobab » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:02 pm

And if I 'lose' one of my passports?

I wonder if they have a way of knowing one's going out and ins, if for example I tell them that I lost one of my passports, if at the airports sometimes the Officers just don't put stamps on them.

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Re: Overstayed in Switzerland, please someone advice

Post by Wanderer » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:09 pm

pbaobab wrote:And if I 'lose' one of my passports?

I wonder if they have a way of knowing one's going out and ins, if for example I tell them that I lost one of my passports, if at the airports sometimes the Officers just don't put stamps on them.
Old trick, don't risk it. Sure it will be no problem anyway.
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Re: Overstayed in Switzerland, please someone advice

Post by pbaobab » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:46 pm

I am sorry, it was a dumb post/thing to ask.

Of course lies won't take me anywhere, I just worry so much about mistaking, that I stop thinking right.

Perhaps I should just leave the duration space blank, and if they have doubts, they can contact me or my sponsor to enquire, if they like.

Thank you for your advice.

Best regards.

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