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Germany : Family reunion

Post by luckystrike08 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:19 am

can anyone advise on this:

My sister and I are Germany citizens, our mother is also german.
our father is not a german.
He has a daughter from his new marriage, and he lives abroad

we are both above 21

how can we bring him to germany to live permanently?

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Post by Richard66 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:52 pm

But you don't say where you and your sister live, where your father lives, what nationality he has and what nationality his new wife has. Lacking this information it will be hard to get an answer.

For family members of EEA citizens who are not spouses, partners, sons or daughters under 21, the EEA citizen must be able to demonstrate that he or she supports him or her. Is this the case?

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Post by luckystrike08 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:30 am

we spend our time between USA and Germany.

where your father lives? my father lives in Lebanon, he is Lebanese, and his new wife is Lebanese.

we do support our father from time to time.

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Post by Richard66 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:57 am

I see some difficulties here. Normally if you support your father and can prove it, you can bring him over (but I believe, as you are German, your father might need to take a German test to qualify, according to the new German law.) The catch is, his new wife and daughter; how do they come into this? I don't know what their position is in relation to you and none of the norms I've seen mention cases like yours. Then you say yourself you shuttle between the US an Germany, which is sure to create additional problems. Maybe you'd best consult an immigration lawyer?

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Post by luckystrike08 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:23 am

father knows german, he lived in germany before.

for humanitaian reasons do you think, we can spnosor the three of them, because this will tear the family apart.

and if you know a lawyer

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Post by Richard66 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:16 am

If he lived in Germany before and speaks German this is one obstacle less.

Why don't you take a look at this site:

http://www.info4alien.de/

It might help you.

You'd need a German immigration lawyer for advice and I don't know any, I'm sorry.

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Post by Administrator » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:31 pm

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To bring his wife and family (new daughter) into Germany, he will need to demonstrate that he can support himself and his dependent family.

His ex-wife and his adult children by a previous marriage are very, very unlikely to be able to sponsor him PLUS his new wife & child. They might be able to do so if he was elderly or disabled. If his children can sponsor him and his new family ... that doesn't seem likely. But, it might be possible.


I will not argue the 'humanitarian grounds' angle .. that's where you need a highly skilled lawyer. A German immigration lawyer.

To claim actual asylum, he needs to demonstrate that his life is in danger. Germany in particular is very sensitive to these sorts of claims, unfortunately due to some problems (real and imagined) with Turkish immigrants and asylum seekers.

The problem with a family re-unification application is that he is not really re-uniting with his family .. that NORMALLY applies to husbands and wives and their immediate DEPENDENT children.

However, it is not always and exclusively limited this way.

HOWEVER. It WILL require a lawyer to properly make the application, both for technical correctness and 'diplomatic style.' If you go this route, you are attempting to re-unite extended family, and that will not come easily or quickly if you are lacking a very compelling reason.

His new wife (certainly) and child (probably) will have to meet German language requirements to enter the country. The requirement is low, but they will need a basic fluency in about 300 or 400 words & be able to understand & speak with good enough grammar to get by.

If they are granted an asylum claim, this might get waived.

More likely your father will need to enter via a normal immigration route, such as a job offer & work permit.

By the way, "spend our time between USA and Germany" is a pretty dodgy answer. If you attempt such an answer with immigration, you are likely to get immigration quite irate with you.

Get used to the idea that you will need to answer that very specifically .. such as, how much time in each country, which country is your country of residence, how are you in each country (marriage or work or ..??).

If you are attempting to re-unite as children with your father in Germany, German immigration is going to want detailed specifics on your employment, tax and pay records, residency and ability to support your father and his family. Germany is NOT a country to get cute with. They require very specific and detailed documentation. Small errors will cost you any opportunity you might have.

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