Help needed please confusion about marrige visa

[Aaliyah110]

Hi as you know Jamal applied for a fiance visa and they stamped his passport with a marrige visa..

We are getting married next week however we phoned up the FLR - HO people and they said because he came on a marrige visa even though he is getting married he will need to go back and apply for a spouse visa to come back!!! is this true I just fought for over 6months to get him back here and now the FLR people are telling us he will need to go back and re apply please help!!

[vinny]

If he entered on a Fiancé(e)s/proposed civil partners entry clearance, with the following endorsement:

13.16 - Entry clearance endorsements

Entry clearances issued to a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner should be endorsed ‘D: MARRIAGE/CP’. LTE 6 MONTHS CODE 3.

Then he would be entitled to apply for FLR(M) immediately after marriage.

However, if he entered on a Visit for marriage or civil partnership entry clearance, with the following endorsement:

Endorsement

Entry clearance issued in this category should be endorsed 'C: VISIT - MARRIAGE/CP'. LTE 6 MONTHS CODE 3. You need to enter the initial and surname of the intended partner on the entry clearance.

Then, unfortunately, after marriage, he should return to his home country and apply for a spouse entry clearance.

Which endorsement does he have?

[Aaliyah110]

Hi Vinny he has Marrige Visa 2 year Multiple entry..

[Aaliyah110]

Sorry it says Visa Marriage/CP <MY NAME>

My initials at the end .

So what does this mean? is it they issued this visa to him as Fiance to get married and apply for FLR?

Please expalin this Visa Marriage/CP <MY NAME>

thanks

Aaliyah

[vinny]

It looks like he has a Spouses/civil partners entry clearance endorsement because of the two years:

Entry clearances issued to a spouse or male/female civil partner should be endorsed ‘D: SPOUSE/CP. The initial, surname and date of birth of the UK sponsor should be written underneath the vignette or on an adjacent page. Please do not enter the sponsor's first name as this will highlight whether the visa refers to a same-sex relationship. LTE 2 YEARS CODE 1.

However, the word "marriage" is used in place of "spouse". Are you sure it says "visa" and not "visit" before the word "marriage"? They could also have mistakenly put down two years instead of six months. This is all very odd.

I wonder if they thought that he qualified as an Unmarried (i.e. opposite sex) and same-sex partner. How long have you been living together?

Which visa application form (VAF1 or VAF2) was used and how much was the fee?

[Aaliyah110]

No we have not lived together ever but knwn each oother for 7 years also the form filled out was VAF2 and we clearly ticked Fiance and it clearly says VISA MARRIGE/CP

so now very confused!!

[Aaliyah110]

and the fee was like 600 pounds

[Aaliyah110]

Sorry for so many posts it says on top Mult..so very confused again,,meaning Multiple entry for Two years..

[jamalkhan]

And The form was VAF2
THe fees was for the settlement visa

Question is What happens now.
If they have made a mistake then they should correct it!

[vinny]

From the information given, i.e. VAF2, fee and endorsement, it cannot be a Visit for marriage or civil partnership entry clearance endorsement. See also fees. It is not a Spouses/civil partners visa because you are not yet married. It is not an Unmarried (i.e. opposite sex) and same-sex partner visa because you haven't lived together for long enough.

It seems to me that it's a Fiancé(e)s/proposed civil partners entry clearance endorsement, with the incorrect validity period of two years rather than the normal six months.

In my opinion, he may make an application for FLR(M) immediately after marriage. I don't see how they can refuse his application on the basis of his visa.

[Aaliyah110]

Thanks for you informative reply..
However why does it say no work if we make the FLR(M) application can he work then..

[mym]

if we make the FLR(M) application can he work then..

Yes, if they grant it.

[vinny]

Normally, fiancé(e) visa holders are not allowed to work. However, FLR(M) holders are allowed to work.

One further question. Which category is the visa's? It should be D.

Do you still have the visa's fee receipt? Since the visa is non-standard, it may be helpful to send a copy of the receipt with the FLR(M) application.

[Aaliyah110]

Hi Many thanks for al your replies..

We went to the FLR people yesterday and in 2 hours they granted the FLR(M)..They were a bit baffeld with how the embssy issued a 2 year C marrige visa..but that does not matter now as he has FLR(M) and now the next step is to apply for a schegan so he can travel around europe..

Just a note when going to apply for FLR(M) make sure all your docs are original they nearly refused ours as im an online banker and did not have the originals and only printouts which were attested by a solicitor but even so they do not accept this and they only let us have the FLR(M) Due to my mortgage things and also other strong supporting docs but they said when applying for ILR we need to bring everything originals but thankfully everything has worked out!!! and we are married!!!

thanks all for everything if anyone needs anything any questions to answer please do not hesitate to contact me

thanks a million

[vinny]

Great news

Now, start collecting the documents as suggested on the form SET(M) (section 9).

[avjones]

Many congratulations!