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Citizenship (draft)Bill..Ominous signs for wannabe Britz?

Post by thirdwave » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:12 pm

Broon has announced a new Citizenship(draft) Bill which would 'take forward' recommendations made by Lord Goldsmith following his review into the process..Is this just another case of Broon & Co playing to the Daily Express audience? Could this mean everyone would be forced to wear kilts & take up Morris dancing before being granted Citizenship?

Amanda & Victoria, have you heard anything on the grapevine?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7080446.stm

http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/newsrelease051007b.htm
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Post by VictoriaS » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:14 pm

Nothing yet. But I am at an OISC conference in a couple of weeks, and I expect to get more detail then.

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Post by Dawie » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:22 pm

2. The review's terms of reference are:

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To clarify the legal rights and responsibilities associated with British citizenship, in addition to those enjoyed under the Human Rights Act, as a basis for defining what it means to be a citizen in Britain's open democratic society.
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To consider the difference between the different categories of British nationality.
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To examine the relationship between residence, citizenship and British national status and the incentives for long-term residents to become British citizens.
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To explore the role of citizens and residents in civic society, including voting, jury service and other forms of civic participation.
I would think that the most interesting part of this review will be the part I've marked in bold.

The different classes of British citizenship could do with simplification. Although some attempt was made fairly recently it still doesn't go far enough.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by thirdwave » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:48 pm

Dawie wrote:
2. The review's terms of reference are:

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To clarify the legal rights and responsibilities associated with British citizenship, in addition to those enjoyed under the Human Rights Act, as a basis for defining what it means to be a citizen in Britain's open democratic society.
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To consider the difference between the different categories of British nationality.
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To examine the relationship between residence, citizenship and British national status and the incentives for long-term residents to become British citizens.
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To explore the role of citizens and residents in civic society, including voting, jury service and other forms of civic participation.
I would think that the most interesting part of this review will be the part I've marked in bold.

The different classes of British citizenship could do with simplification. Although some attempt was made fairly recently it still doesn't go far enough.
So are you saying you are in favour of having 1st,2nd & 3rd class citizens? :lol:

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Post by JAJ » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:27 am

thirdwave wrote: So are you saying you are in favour of having 1st,2nd & 3rd class citizens? :lol:
There are six classes of British nationality today.

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Post by pinkuk » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:23 am

JAJ wrote:
thirdwave wrote: So are you saying you are in favour of having 1st,2nd & 3rd class citizens? :lol:
There are six classes of British nationality today.

what do u mean by 6 classes , can u elaborate plz?
never heard of that one before.
thnx

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Post by jes2jes » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:38 am

pinkuk wrote:
JAJ wrote:
thirdwave wrote: So are you saying you are in favour of having 1st,2nd & 3rd class citizens? :lol:
There are six classes of British nationality today.

what do u mean by 6 classes , can u elaborate plz?
never heard of that one before.
thnx
Here you go mate!

Classes of British nationality

There are currently several classes of British national:

British citizens

British Citizens usually hold this status through a connection with the United Kingdom, Channel Islands and Isle of Man ("United Kingdom and Islands"). Former Citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKCs) who possessed right of abode under the Immigration Act 1971 through a connection with the United Kingdom and Islands generally became British citizens on 1 January 1983.
British citizenship is the most common type of British nationality, and the only one that automatically carries a right of abode in the United Kingdom.

British Overseas Territories citizens (formerly British Dependent Territories citizenship) (BOTC)

BOTC (formerly BDTC) is the form of British nationality held by connection with an existing overseas territory. Nearly all are now also British citizens as a result of the British Overseas Territories Act 2002. It is possible to hold BOTC and British citizenship simultaneously. Unlike BOTCs, all citizens of French overseas dependencies are also French citizens, under the country's nationality law.

British Overseas citizens (BOC)

BOCs are those former CUKCs who did not qualify for either British citizenship or British Dependent Territories citizenship. Most of these derived their status as CUKCs from former colonies, such as Malaysia and Kenya.

British subjects

British subjects (as defined in the 1981 Act) are those British subjects who were not CUKCs or citizens of any other Commonwealth country. Most of these derived their status as British subjects from British India or the Republic of Ireland as they existed before 1949.

British Nationals (Overseas) (BNO)

The status of BNO did not originally exist under the 1981 scheme, but was created by the Hong Kong Act 1985 and the British Nationality (Hong Kong) Order 1986. BNOs are those former Hong Kong BDTCs who applied for the status of BNO prior to the handover of Hong Kong to the People's Republic of China. Hong Kong BDTCs who did not apply to become BNOs, and who did not gain PRC nationality after the handover, became BOCs if they did not have any other nationality.

British protected persons (BPP)

BPPs derive from those parts of the British Empire which were not officially part of the Crown's dominions, but were instead protectorates or protected states with nominally independent rulers under the "protection" of the British Crown. The status of BPP is sui generis - BPPs are not Commonwealth citizens (British subjects, in the old sense) and were not traditionally considered to be British nationals, but are not aliens either.
Of the various classes of British nationality and BPP status, all except British citizenship and British Overseas Territories citizenship are residual categories. This means that they will become extinct with the passage of time, as they can only be passed down to the national's children in exceptional circumstances, e.g. if the child would otherwise be stateless. There is, consequently, little provision for the acquisition of these classes of nationality by people who do not already have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law
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