Guidance on application of section 65 of 2014 act

[bfrenchfry]

FYI people are tracking timelines on the UKF page here:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... l#p1222410


I know myself and one other person applied in April (over 13 weeks ago now) and have had no money deducted, and no acknowledgement via email or post. I got an email back from the furthernationalityenquiries email 2 weeks ago just saying we're sorry please give another 2 weeks for acknowledgement. I wrote them again yesterday asking for my HO ref# that would have been on the letter had they actually bothered to send one. A bunch of other people had their fees deducted within the first month, so not sure why some are so different.

[Antsmall]

Thanks for the information about the other thread!

My email acknowledgement has no reference number of any kind; it's very skeletal and says that my application has been received and will be processed in due course, and that if I need more information I should visit the general website https://www.gov.uk/government/organisat ... mmigration (as if the general website could give us any information about our particular case - ha!) or contact them by another email address because this email address isn't being monitored. I don't know yet if any fees (the ceremony fee only, in my case) were taken from my account because I live abroad and only get very occasional bank statements from my British bank. I'll provide an update if anything transpires!

[Antsmall]

I've just posted my 'timeline' for the UKF application on the other thread you mentioned a couple of messages up (the thread which is dedicated to UKF applications). Yesterday I finally received my old-school paper bank statement for my British bank, and it showed that my ceremony fee was taken on the 13th of July - a day before I received my skeletal email acknowledgement. Here's hoping.

It's rather unnerving that some people are getting things done so quickly when they applied so recently. It seems unfair. It may partly depend on having applied from within Britain, but I have no idea what other parameters are at play. Maybe some applications landed on the desk of someone who had an extended attack of bad burritos and was absent from work recuperating while the applications piled up? (Ha ha, piles). Um, on this immature, speculative and somewhat biological note, I wish us all good luck.

[nerf]

Hello,

I'm currently residing in the UK under Right of Abode through my father who was born in the UK (mother was not). Is it possible to apply directly for a passport with this section 65 or do I need to apply for Naturalisation/Registration first?

Thanks!

[Antsmall]

If you want to obtain citizenship through section 65 (form UKF), claiming citizenship through your father, then you have to go through the registration process first, before you can obtain a passport. I don't know how the Right of Abode things work though. In general, if you were automatically a British citizen from birth, you can simply apply for a passport (albeit with the more stringent requirements for documentation etc which pertain to first-time adult passports), whereas if you have to claim citizenship first (e.g. through section 65), then you must first assert your right to citizenship and have it recognised by them through the appropriate documentation (registration or naturalisation certificate), and only then can you apply for a passport.

[vinny]

Hello,

I'm currently residing in the UK under Right of Abode through my father who was born in the UK (mother was not). Is it possible to apply directly for a passport with this section 65 or do I need to apply for Naturalisation/Registration first?

Thanks!

If you plan to have children born outside the UK and you are not British, then it may be better if you naturalise.

[Jpj]

Hi Folks,
I need guidance please. I have 2 children aged 2 and 3. Both were born in Nigeria and still living with their mother who is a Nigerian and i am not married to her. I do go for visits and yearly and send up keep for my children as I am named on their birth certificates.
I am a British Citizen through Naturalisation prior to my children's birth. I am still married to my wife here in the UK with my British born children aged 22 through to 11 (just to add some background info). I intend to bring my 2 children to the UK to settle eventually. How do I go about this? Applying for a British passport seems to be the fast and cheap compared to the other expensive and time consuming and not sure of the outcome because of it boiling down to the British High Commissions discretion for a birthright. My questions are
1) Do I apply through section 65, if so which part 4F, 4g, 4h..i..j.....as some of these sub-sections, I seem to qualify but then it asks for my marriage certificate (amongst others)...since I am not married to my kids mother, do they mean my marriage certificate to my wife or I don't qualify under this section 65?
2) Do I apply through the expensive MN1 route? If so, what part do i come under as i'm not clear with the way these are worded.
3) Can I apply directly for their British passports as they are automatically British Citizens by descent (by virtue of my naturalisation back in 1995) but for the fact that I am not married to their mum and being born outside the UK or qualifying territories etc.
4) Can I or may I say, is it best to apply from the UK or from Nigeria regardless of route taken?
5) Do I need the help of a solicitor or not. I feel i am capable if pointed in the right directions from helpful folks like you out there.
May I add also that this website has been very useful as I have gained more knowledge through reading most of the threads posted. I have always thought it will be easy bringing my children...(how naive was I eh?!!) Thanking you all in anticipation for your time dedicated to answering our questions and also in particular for the fight to get the section 65 amendment and making it clearer to me. Thanks to all the advicers and moderators and all the people returning with feedbacks.
Apologies for the long texts.
Kind Regards
Jpj

[bright_star]

I received 3 double-sided sheets and the envelope also included all of my belongings (passport, birth certificate).

As I am residing abroad, they get you to go to your nearest 'VFS Global' site to take a photo and 10 fingerprint scans within 30 days of the date of issue on the letter.

You should also ensure that your full details are correct. I've identified a few issues with regards to spelling of my name, and they require you to email them to notify of any errors.

Hope that helps

Hello, Commonwealthforever!

I am also living abroad, more specifically in Brazil. How long did it take to have your belongings back?

Cheers!