CA from India - any idea where it fits in as per NARIC

[geriatrix]

Hi,

A friend of mine is wanting to apply for HSMP. He is a qualified Chartered Accountant from India.

Can anyone say for sure (own experience or know for sure) whether CA from India is equivalent to British Masters or British Bachelors ??

Thanks in advance.



regards

[MyHSMPApplication]

You will be surprised to know (atleast i was) that CA isn't considered equivalent to british bachelors degree

I found this information out from some thread in this board

Will try and locate this link and will provide here.

Cheers
PG

[nikunj_dal]

Hi, am CA from India. I recently got approved. I had claimed 35 points in the education section (masters eq.). Total points claimed 95.

I submitted the below documents
a)Original Masters Degree Certificate from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India.
b)Membership cert. letter
c)Original Bachelors Degree Certificate from Mumbai University.

No Naric letter sent.

Hope this helps.

[herts]

hello nikunj,
Can you please let me know how should a person get into the accounts field in uk. One of my mates has a mcom from mumbai, India.

[pantaiema]

nikunj_dal

In your case is that it is not CA that earn U point for education but it is your Master's degree.

Hi, am CA from India. I recently got approved. I had claimed 35 points in the education section (masters eq.). Total points claimed 95.

I submitted the below documents
a)Original Masters Degree Certificate from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India.
b)Membership cert. letter
c)Original Bachelors Degree Certificate from Mumbai University.

No Naric letter sent.

Hope this helps.

[geriatrix]

Original Masters Degree Certificate from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India.

Hi Nikunj,

Can u tell me what this is - Masters degree certificate from ICAI ?? Did you get this on request from ICAI ??

My friend only has the Group1&2 pass certificates and marksheets, and the membership certificate.

regards

[nikunj_dal]

By Masters degree certificate from ICAI, I mean

1) Foundation certificate
2) Inter certificate
3) And Final certificate recd from ICAI at each level of clearance.

[Ashekt]

I am a qualified CWA from India and I am also of the opinion that CWA/ CA/ CS does not count towards any point under education. You have points if you have bachelors/ masters degree from any university.

I got points only for my Bachelors although I did sent my CWA documents just to give myself an edge as it is a professional degree.

[geriatrix]

Hi,

A friend of mine is wanting to apply for HSMP. He is a qualified Chartered Accountant from India.

Can anyone say for sure (own experience or know for sure) whether CA from India is equivalent to British Masters or British Bachelors ??

Thanks in advance.



regards

My friend appied to NARIC and I can now confirm that as per NARIC, CA from India is comparable to British taught masters degree.

regards

[geriatrix]

Hi, am CA from India. I recently got approved. I had claimed 35 points in the education section (masters eq.). Total points claimed 95.

I submitted the below documents
a)Original Masters Degree Certificate from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India.
b)Membership cert. letter
c)Original Bachelors Degree Certificate from Mumbai University.

No Naric letter sent.

Hope this helps.

Hi Nikunj,

Did you put your CA as an "academic" qualification or a "professional" one in the HSMP form ?

Though my friend has a NARIC letter which says that the "final examination certificate" (title of award) awared by ICAI (awarding body) is equivalent to taught British Masters degree, generally CA is considered a professional qualification. So we were wondering if we should populate the academic qulaification thingi or the professional qualification thingi (in the form)??

One of the requirements in the HSMP form for a professional qualification is "evidence from the appropriate UK professional body" to prove equivalence of one's professional qualification to UK standards. Wouldn't that mean that he needs a letter from ICAEW and not NARIC ??

Appreciate your feedback and views. Feedback from other users also welcome.

regards

[pantaiema]

I do not know about the CA (chartered Accountant) But I could tell you comparable case in the UK.

Some engineers got Royal chartered if they already have a lot of experience from Engineering Council UK,. In the early days before 1997 people with a lot of experience could get chartered even they just have first degree (bachelors).

You know what happen to these chartered engineers, if they ask NARIC to assess their professional qualifications (CEng), NARIC WILL NEVER CERTIFY THAT CEng CHARTERED ENGINEERS EQUIVALENT TO MASTER'S DEGREE.. This is case is taken from engineer who got royal chartered in the UK not in other countries.

You know nowadays the academic requirement to get post nominal the title of Royal Chartered Engineer have been raised to Master's degree + over 4 years experience it depends on person to person (Some peolpe with master's degree even got it after 10 years experience). So I know how hard it is to get chartered.

Nowadays, it is hardly people could get chartered with just Bacheloer's degree it has to have Master's degree. But this does not automatically mean that Chartered is equivalent to master's degree both are differents.

Both are different and therefore can not be comparable. One is academic the other one is about professional. U might have professional expreince but once U r tested about your academic ability something like complex maths, modeling, simulation, which r normamly tested in academic sphere. U might fail if U do not have engough academic foundation. Similarly, the pople with Maste'r degree might fail if they r tested in professional spehere.

In other case, U might see your director do not have any academic qualification, U have PhD degree in management. It does mean that your director have qualification comparable/similar or higher in U because they manage U. Both are diffrenet, they do not necessarily know what U know, U do not necessarily know what they know.

That is why I really wonder if people could claim that they get NARIC comparability for CA to be equivalent to master's degree.

We need to hear from more people to come forward whether they actually get NARIC comparability letter CA to be comparable with master’s degree in order to believe that this phenomenon is TRUE. Sofar we have not heard enough people in this forum have confirmed this to the level that we could belive that this phenomenon is true.

Hi,

A friend of mine is wanting to apply for HSMP. He is a qualified Chartered Accountant from India.

Can anyone say for sure (own experience or know for sure) whether CA from India is equivalent to British Masters or British Bachelors ??

Thanks in advance.



regards

My friend appied to NARIC and I can now confirm that as per NARIC, CA from India is comparable to British taught masters degree.

regards

[geriatrix]

Hi Nikunj_Dal,

Thanks for your PM.



Hi Pantaiema,

I have a copy of the NARIC letter that my friend received. It clearly states that the qualification awarded by Institute of Chartered Accounts of India is comparable to taught masters degree in UK.

Country of award: India
Title of award: Final Examination Certificate
Awarding Body: The Institute of Chartered Accounts of India
Assessment: Is considered comparable to British taught Master's degree standard.

With the NARIC letter in hand, I think my friend will be on the safe side by showing his CA qualification as an "academic" qualification in the HSMP form. If NARIC were to think of CA (India) as a professional qualification, they wouldn't have sent him the letter of comparability, isn't it ??

regards

[pantaiema]

Dear sushdmehta

Thank U for your time writing your experience

From yoor previous popstings U wrote

"Original Masters Degree Certificate from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India."

Does it mean U have Master master's degree cetificate in your hand or U do not ? What I mean is that the the ceritificate that U have got from CA india clealrly indicate that it is a master's degree. I do not knwo in India but in other coulntries U could get degree from Insitution other than universities. In germany for instance, U might get PhD degree from research institution, and it is recognised by german and EU standard.

I think we need to be quite clear about this before we take conclusion.

Hi Nikunj_Dal,

Thanks for your PM.



Hi Pantaiema,

I have a copy of the NARIC letter that my friend received. It clearly states that the qualification awarded by Institute of Chartered Accounts of India is comparable to taught masters degree in UK.

Country of award: India
Title of award: Final Examination Certificate
Awarding Body: The Institute of Chartered Accounts of India
Assessment: Is considered comparable to British taught Master's degree standard.

With the NARIC letter in hand, I think my friend will be on the safe side by showing his CA qualification as an "academic" qualification in the HSMP form. If NARIC were to think of CA (India) as a professional qualification, they wouldn't have sent him the letter of comparability, isn't it ??

regards