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EEA/PR question

Post by hellothere19 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:38 pm

Hello
I am a Belgian citizen, living and working in the UK for the past 15 years
I passed my language test/Life in UK already and just realise now we need to apply for PR first

It looks a daunting procedure!
I assume I only need to provide details of the past 5 years. Do I need to give all payslips? or only 2 per year, like with the utility bills etc
Also,re absences, I don't think I can recall all holidays and the dates that I took. Is it a deal breaker if I don't remember all of them?

Thanks!
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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by ohara » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:31 pm

It can be any 5 year period you were exercising treaty rights. Be aware that unless you are married to a British citizen, you should have held PR for at least 12 months before applying for citizenship. So make sure you provide evidence of a 5 year period which ended at least 12 months ago.

P60s, a couple of payslips from each year, a letter from your employer, bank statements showing regular salary payment are all good for proving employment.

You only need to list absences from the start of your qualifying period until present day, NOT everything since you first came to the UK. Don't worry if the dates are not 100% accurate, unless you have spent a considerable amount of time (e.g over 365 days) outside the country then it doesn't really matter. You could include a short covering letter stating that some dates might be approximate.

Processing times seem to be around 7-8 weeks at the moment. Good luck :)

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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by hellothere19 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:47 pm

ohara wrote:It can be any 5 year period you were exercising treaty rights. Be aware that unless you are married to a British citizen, you should have held PR for at least 12 months before applying for citizenship. So make sure you provide evidence of a 5 year period which ended at least 12 months ago.

P60s, a couple of payslips from each year, a letter from your employer, bank statements showing regular salary payment are all good for proving employment.

You only need to list absences from the start of your qualifying period until present day, NOT everything since you first came to the UK. Don't worry if the dates are not 100% accurate, unless you have spent a considerable amount of time (e.g over 365 days) outside the country then it doesn't really matter. You could include a short covering letter stating that some dates might be approximate.

Processing times seem to be around 7-8 weeks at the moment. Good luck :)
Thank you for your answer
So i should provide only evidence from let's say 2009-2014 and omit P60 etc from the past year all together?
When I read what is required under section 9, I will have to inform them of my last year of employment too. (it might sound a dumb question... :oops:)

thanks
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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by ohara » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:15 pm

Yes. The form asks for significantly more information than you are actually required to give in order to get a DCPR.

List your employment to present day if you like, it makes no difference. But evidence is only required for a 5 year period, so no need to send most recent P60.

You don't actually need to use the EEA(PR) form to apply. It could be worth having a search around the internet and seeing if you can get the old EEA3 form; it is much shorter and simpler (the EEA(PR) form is the amalgamation of about four different forms into one). UKVI cannot refuse an application made on an old, or even no form (yes you can just write a letter).

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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by hellothere19 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:41 pm

ohara wrote:Yes. The form asks for significantly more information than you are actually required to give in order to get a DCPR.

List your employment to present day if you like, it makes no difference. But evidence is only required for a 5 year period, so no need to send most recent P60.

You don't actually need to use the EEA(PR) form to apply. It could be worth having a search around the internet and seeing if you can get the old EEA3 form; it is much shorter and simpler (the EEA(PR) form is the amalgamation of about four different forms into one). UKVI cannot refuse an application made on an old, or even no form (yes you can just write a letter).
Thanks again. Il' have a look around if can find the old form

I have another question re required docs. I already took my life in UK test and used my Belgian paspoort for that. I read on the naturalisation application form that I need to use the same documentation ie my passport as for my life in uk test when I apply.
I was planning to send my Belgian ID card for the EEA/PR process, as I need my passport for a couple of trips over the next months. I wonder now if I need to use my passport for the EEA/PR procedure, to match later my citizenship application, or can I send mu ID card in (I hope so! I'd rather not delay my PR because of looming EU ref)
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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by ohara » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:49 pm

Does it say that national ID card is on the list of accepted documents? If not, you can send your passport, then after 10 working days request it back.

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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by hellothere19 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:01 pm

ohara wrote:Does it say that national ID card is on the list of accepted documents? If not, you can send your passport, then after 10 working days request it back.
Yes it does say Passport or national ID card
(Proof of identity and nationality (sections 1-2) – e.g. valid passport, travel document or
national identity card for you, any family members applying with you, and your sponsor (if
applicable)

If I used my national ID card, I wonder if it might cause delays/problems if I apply later for nationality using my passport
I know I can request it back after 10 days, but my luck there will be delay of some sort and need it back before 21/2, then again I'm using it for a week in march and april. Not sure what to do :roll:
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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by ohara » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:47 pm

Requesting it back is not a problem, UKVI understands that people need to travel and being without their passport for months is unacceptable. Just FYI, I requested my passport back after 3 weeks, stating in the form that I needed it urgently; it arrived in 1st class recorded post after 4 working days.

Using the ID card for PR certificate but passport for citizenship application is not a problem. I believe HO expect you to use the same ID for Life in UK test and citizenship, but nothing mentioned for PR.

If you are travelling inside EEA, can't you use your ID card instead of passport anyway :?:

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Re: EEA/PR question

Post by hellothere19 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:03 pm

ohara wrote:Requesting it back is not a problem, UKVI understands that people need to travel and being without their passport for months is unacceptable. Just FYI, I requested my passport back after 3 weeks, stating in the form that I needed it urgently; it arrived in 1st class recorded post after 4 working days.

Using the ID card for PR certificate but passport for citizenship application is not a problem. I believe HO expect you to use the same ID for Life in UK test and citizenship, but nothing mentioned for PR.

If you are travelling inside EEA, can't you use your ID card instead of passport anyway :?:
Thanks for your reply.
I'm travelling outside the EEA, hence my need to use my passport.
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