Tanzanian Passport with a Right of Abode vignette

[hakunamatata354]

Hi,

Can anyone please give any advice - holder of Tanzanian passport had previously ROA stamp affixed on the passport. However, the difficulty with having this stamp on the passport is that it may alert Tanzanian IO as to the status of the ROA's holder's UK connection. Tanzania does not allow dual nationality, although the Law Reform Commission has recommended adoption into Tanzanian statute. Is there any other UK Home office facility that will allow the use of Tanzanian Passport and be able to enter UK without any difficulty? Also Home Office website says as of December 2006, the ROA vignette will not be affixed on renewal of Passport.

[vinny]

See also 3.2 Who has the Right of Abode.

While all British citizens have the Right of Abode, not all who have the Right of Abode are necessary British citizens. So, mere possession of Right of Abode does not automatically imply that the holder is a British citizen.

See also Right of abode.

We will no longer be transferring a certificate of entitlement from one passport to another. If you wish to have a certificate of entitlement in a new passport, you will need to make a fresh application.

[JAJ]

See also 3.2 Who has the Right of Abode.

While all British citizens have the Right of Abode, not all who have the Right of Abode are necessary British citizens. So, mere possession of Right of Abode does not automatically imply that the holder is a British citizen.

If he is no longer a Tanzanian citizen then the passport is invalid.

[Dawie]

As vinny said, possession of right of abode does not necessarily imply that you are a British citizen.

Having said that, if you ARE indeed a British citizen why do you have a right of abode sticker and not a British passport?

[VictoriaS]

Perhaps because he doesn['t want to lose his Tanzianian nationality?

Victoria

[Dawie]

Perhaps because he doesn['t want to lose his Tanzianian nationality?

Victoria

If he's a British citizen then he's already lost his Tanzanian nationality and is in fact using his Tanzanian passport illegaly, as JAJ has already pointed out.

[Christophe]

Also Home Office website says as of December 2006, the ROA vignette will not be affixed on renewal of Passport.

It will be, but - unlike before - you would have to make a fresh application from scratch (in the past, the ROA sticker would just be transferred on production of the old and new passports). It will also now not be given to someone who also actually holds a British passport.

[hakunamatata354]

Thank you to all the contributors to my query. Yes, per VictoriaS, the holder wants to keep their Tanzanian nationality. What will happen when a new Tanzanian Passport is issued and no ROA is affixed? How will one travel to/from UK?

[VictoriaS]

It's a catch 22. You are really supposed to give up one nationality or another, this is the whole point, you are not supposed to have two nationalities.

Victoria

[Christophe]

Thank you to all the contributors to my query. Yes, per VictoriaS, the holder wants to keep their Tanzanian nationality. What will happen when a new Tanzanian Passport is issued and no ROA is affixed? How will one travel to/from UK?

How does the holder qualify for the right of abode?

[hakunamatata354]

How does the holder qualify for the right of abode?

Holder has UK passport as well.

[Mr Rusty]

Then as far as the UK authorities are concerned, your right of entry and abode in the UK is established by showing your UK passport. They don't have to give you anything else, and in fact there is nothing else they can give you - as you said in your OP, since a year ago, they won't give a ROA endorsement in a foreign passport to someone who's been issued with a UK passport - and don't bother asking about Indefinite Leave to Remain, as a Brit Cit you are not "subject to control", and don't require Leave of any sort, so you won't get that either.
You can obviously present your Tanzanian passport to the authorities there, but if they start looking at the stamps and want to know where you've been, the only person who can advise you is a fellow citizen who's been through all this.

[hakunamatata354]

Ok, Home Office will not grant ROA on foreign passports in future, but then how is one able to prove to the IO at a UK port on the holder's eligibility to enter UK? This is on the assumption that for practical reasons the passenger was travelling on his/her Tanzanian passport. There could also be difficulty to convince an airline to allow boarding on a flight without the right visa/stamp etc for UK.

Has any person come across similar problem?

[Christophe]

Ok, Home Office will not grant ROA on foreign passports in future, but then how is one able to prove to the IO at a UK port on the holder's eligibility to enter UK? This is on the assumption that for practical reasons the passenger was travelling on his/her Tanzanian passport. There could also be difficulty to convince an airline to allow boarding on a flight without the right visa/stamp etc for UK.

Has any person come across similar problem?

The British authorities will still give a right of abode certificate in the non-British passport of a dual British citizen who does not hold a British passport. If the person does hold a British passport, he or she must use that passport to prove the right of abode in the UK.

I am assuming here that that the British passport in question is a British citizen passport - is that right?

[hakunamatata354]

Yes, the holder is BC passport holder.

[Mr Rusty]

I'm struggling to understand what "practical reasons" a dual passport holder has for not producing their British passport on entry to the UK, or to the carrier when embarking for the UK.
My wife uses her Thai passport to enter Thailand, and shows it to the Thai Immigration Officer when leaving Thailand. At checkin, (because her UK passport carries her married surname which is on the ticket), and on entry to the UK, she shows her UK passport.
I'm not sure whether this procedure would be any more difficult if she was not allowed dual nationality. Unless the OP can be more forthcoming about his/her reluctance to use the British passport for the purpose for which it was issued, I can't think of any other advice on this subject.
Given the potential for misuse when ROA in the UK is endorsed in two different documents, I wouldn't criticise the British Government for tightening up on this. People who broke their original countries' laws by taking British citizenship should take responsibility for their actions.

[hakunamatata354]

Want help and advice in connection with application for ROA. Current Tanzanian passport holder, who held UK passport previously, wants to apply for the ROA on their Tanzanian passport. Can he/she apply for ROA since he/she previously held a UK Citizen passport? He/she does not want to renew UK passport for now.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[fwd079]

Want help and advice in connection with application for ROA. Current Tanzanian passport holder, who held UK passport previously, wants to apply for the ROA on their Tanzanian passport. Can he/she apply for ROA since he/she previously held a UK Citizen passport? He/she does not want to renew UK passport for now.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Seniors can tell you better but this link suggests it might be risky according to law, since you already have a passport. I guess you could carry both passports and show UK one at return entry but I'd await senior's reply.

[vinny]

I guess if the British passport has expired, then it is no longer valid. So, it may be possible?

Assumes that the Tanzanian passport is valid?

[hakunamatata354]

Hi Vinni,

Yes, UK passport has expired and TZ passport is valid. Applicant does not want to renew UK passport. Can ROA still be applied for as long as applicant does not renew/hold a BP?

[vinny]

I think so. Ask the British Embassy for confirmation.

[hakunamatata354]

Hi Vinni,

Thank you for your response.

The British High Commission referred the applicant to the HO website (www.gov.uk/visas-immigration) & (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/3145/made). As the applicant is required to select a basis for his/her entitlement, could you please advise which category should the applicant that is relevant to him/her? The applicant has held a UK Citizen passport in the past which has expired. The applicant was born overseas (Tanzania) whose father was a BSCUK at the time of the applicant's birth (1955). As stated previously, the applicant does not want to renew his/her British Passport (now expired) and wants to travel to the UK on a valid TZ passport. Any help and advice here would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

[hakunamatata354]

Hi Vinni,

Meant to say "As the applicant is required to select a basis for his/her entitlement, could you please advise which category should the applicant select that is relevant to him/her?"

[vinny]

Presumably, because he's British?