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Residence permit in Holland

Post by spacit » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:13 pm

Hello everyone.

I'm spanish and I'm planing to move to The Netherlands in a few months, to Rotterdam, cause I have a job offer there.

There's not going to be a problem with me, as I am an E.C. citizen, but my girlfriend is from Paraguay, and she needs residence permit.

She won't work in there at the beginning, only go to an english school cause her english isn't very good, and I will have enough income for the two of us. With that conditions, would it be easy to get the residence permit?

If not, how dangerous would it be if she stays with me without it?, in 8 months she will get the spanish nationality, so It would only be for 8 montsh without the permit. I've heard that in Holland it's very unusal that the police ask you for your documentation, and even that they can't ask you to show it if you are not committing a crime or a fault. Is that true?

It sounds strange to me, cause in Spain, they have the right to ask you to show you passport anytime they want, and they quite often do.

Thank you for your help.

joesoap101
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Post by joesoap101 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:12 am

The Dutch have a very strict law concerning proof of identification (since the 1 Jan 2005). Everyone aged 14 and over are required by law to have identification on their person at all times. They can ask for it in any situation, not just when you are suspected of a crime. And even though the Dutch would espouse their tolerance, you are far more likely to be asked for identification if you have a darker skin tone. If you are unable to identify yourself you will be fined €50 (and if you are in the country illegally this would lead to far more serious repercussions when given the chance, you fail to submit legitimate identification i.e. proof of legal residence).

I suggest you follow the legal route even if it is only for 8 months.

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Family member

Family member of a citizen of the European Union

You are a family member or relative of a citizen of the European Union if you are the spouse, (registered) partner, grandparent or parent-in-law or (great(grand))child of an EU/EEA subject. This position may qualify you for a stay in the Netherlands based on the EC treaty.
Conditions

* The European Union citizen in question has lawful residence in the Netherlands on the basis of the EC Treaty;


Additional conditions

If you are not a spouse, (registered) partner or child younger than 21 years, you must demonstrate that your family member provides for you or that you lived with him in your country of origin.

Residence document

You will be issued a residence document type I that entitles you to the same rights as your family member. If your family member has his own residence document, you will be issued a residence document with the same term of validity he has.
If your family member has a residence endorsement sticker, you will be granted a residence document with a term of five years.

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Re: Residence permit in Holland

Post by sakura » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:13 pm

spacit wrote:Hello everyone.

I'm spanish and I'm planing to move to The Netherlands in a few months, to Rotterdam, cause I have a job offer there.

There's not going to be a problem with me, as I am an E.C. citizen, but my girlfriend is from Paraguay, and she needs residence permit.

She won't work in there at the beginning, only go to an english school cause her english isn't very good, and I will have enough income for the two of us. With that conditions, would it be easy to get the residence permit?

If not, how dangerous would it be if she stays with me without it?, in 8 months she will get the spanish nationality, so It would only be for 8 montsh without the permit. I've heard that in Holland it's very unusal that the police ask you for your documentation, and even that they can't ask you to show it if you are not committing a crime or a fault. Is that true?

It sounds strange to me, cause in Spain, they have the right to ask you to show you passport anytime they want, and they quite often do.

Thank you for your help.
Wouldn't she risk losing her application for Spanish citizenship if she leaves the country for 8 months? Actually, can you explain to me what the requirements are, i.e. how long is the residency requirement? I read somewhere that it is usually much shorter for people from former Spanish colonies (+ some other countries), but I didn't know they could reside elsewhere for so long and still be able to apply.

Directive/2004/38/EC
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:37 pm

How long have you been together with your girlfriend? How long have you been living together?

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