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It does look reasonable and simple, but I still wonder what the difference between stage 1 and 2 is. After all, the extra stage is a crucial element of the new system, but it does not seem to serve any purpose apart from a further delay to permanent residency. I am sure it sounds good to xenophobe voters, but is that all it does? Do you have to keep renewing it, for example, or is it granted for 5 years?runie80 wrote: Stage in the Journey to Citizenship
(1) Temporary Residence
(2) Probationary Citizenship
(3) Permanent Residence
and when you get to 6-7 years, they will tell u Oops, its 12 years now,a nd when you get to 12, they will be like, get outta here.RobinLondon wrote:What I can't find out...there's no reference to it in the document...
What happens to those already on ILR when the Big Bang happens? I reckon that transitional arrangements are still a while off, but there will be many people who will have the old style ILR when the Home Office no longer is issuing them.
I wonder how they will be brought into citizenship, or will this be some residual class?
I ask because I'm scheduled for ILR in August 2008. Early enough to get ILR. But I'm likely to be subject to the new nationality rules by the time August 2009 rolls around if there aren't transitional arrangements in place.
pissing me right off, changing the rules all the time. I think i am packing my bags for the USA, good riddance great britainNarcissus wrote:I can only assume the only reason is to severely cut the number of people on ILR. Most people will not go through that stage to get to citizenship, and it will be more difficult to get that citizenship.
I can only guess that is because ILR gives benefits but no responsibilities - and people can still call them foreigners.
Why worry about it? no matter what happens, it will surely not be in your favour. So relax, and wait for them to whack you.TinTinTin wrote:When will this 'green paper' implemented ?
Also, any guesses if someone on ILR which category does she fit under ?
Temporary Residence OR
Probationary Citizenship OR
Permanent Residence
My guess is 'Permanent Residence', which means they qualify to become a british citizen if they 'meet the criteria' ? Not sure whether its well defined
The way things are going, we are going home no matter what happens. this is the intention of HO, we should not try to fight itashishashah wrote:Even i am on HSMP...HAve a query though:
So there wont be such thing called ILR any more?
You can either apply for a Citizenship after X years after ILR(5 years) , or u go home...Basically you cannot stay for ever on ILR like ppl. r doing it now..You HAVE to TAKE british citizenship
Am i right in saying that??
Ashish
Yes, but I can't find a statement to this effect anywhere in the official HO documents or in Ms Smith's speech. It's almost as if the Guardian and other news sources pulled this "fact" out of thin air...bilgehan1977 wrote:If you read this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008 ... mmigration
it says
"Changes will apply to new arrivals after the new laws are passed, and not to foreigners already living in the UK, so reforms are only likely to affect migrants arriving from 2010"
is it the case??
thanks mate, so it hasn't really changed that much then.UKbound wrote:Based upon what they're saying.. It's probably not that different.. It would be 2 years of residency, which would have limited benefits.. and then 1+ years of "probationary citizenship", that would be only 1 year if your spouse were to volunteer enough (based on criteria not yet determined).. and potentially more money than now for fees and to offset any impact to your council.
Discussed here: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 8eff8dcfdcRAJ2007 wrote:What about 10yrs rule? Are they going to abolish that one?