Fiance Visa to FLR(M)

[FXR_1340]

My American partner and I are now looking ahead to the next stage of our new life together and considering the FLR(M) process.

We intend to secure a Premium Appointment in Glasgow and pay the extra cost that entails.

I have had a dry run at completing the latest versin of FLR(M) Version 04/2017 and although I dont see too much which causes concern there is, at least for now, one thing that is unclear to me and that is the following. It is Section 10 Personal History and asks about criminal convistions.

The paragraphs which are unclear is the Note at 10.1 and 10.2.

10.1 Have you or any dependants who are applying with you been convicted of any criminal
offence in the UK or any other country?
Yes - go to question 10.2 No - go to question 10.3

10.2 Please give details below for each criminal conviction, starting with the most recent one.
If you or any dependants who are applying with you have received more than two convictions,
please photocopy this page and enclose it with this form.
Note: We will carry out criminal record checks on all applicants and dependants. You must give
details of all unspent and spent criminal convictions. This includes road traffic offences but not
fixed penalty notices (such as speeding or parking tickets) unless they were part of a sentence of
the court. This includes all drink-driving offences.

My partner has a DWI conviction from December 2014. It resulted in a fine of $5,000 Should this be declared on the FLR(M) form at 10.2? Happy to declare however we have no desire to offer any more information than that whoch must be provided. That is, dont want to confuse the situation.

Grateful for any help

[Casa]

"in the UK or any other country?"

It should be declared.

[FXR_1340]

"in the UK or any other country?"

It should be declared.

Thank you. I agree that the form does say that. However the last sentence in the Note confuses matters and IMO is less than clear.

Note: We will carry out criminal record checks on all applicants and dependants. You must give
details of all unspent and spent criminal convictions. This includes road traffic offences but not
fixed penalty notices (such as speeding or parking tickets) unless they were part of a sentence of
the court. This includes all drink-driving offences.

Does this mean it should be declared only if it is part of court proceedings? Does it therefore follow that, a fixed penalty, which is not the result of court proceedings, does not need to be declared?

Its not clear to me however I will take your advice and declare.

Thanks.

[Casa]

In which case if the fine was issued as a FPN in the US, my understanding is that you don't need to declare it.

[FXR_1340]

As well as completing the FLR(M) form we understand that APPENDIX 2 (VAF 4A DECEMBER 2013)
FINANCIAL REQUIREMENT FORM must also be completed.

This form states This form is for use outside the UK only. This has confused me as FLR (M) is being cmpleted on the basis of already being in UK.

Grateful for some guidance and clarification on this.

[Casa]

Are you absolutely sure you are completing the correct form? VAF(4a) is for a Spouse Settlement visa when applying outside of the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-flrm

All the financial information is to be completed on the FLR(M) form....not Appendix 2 FM

[FXR_1340]

Are you absolutely sure you are completing the correct form? VAF(4a) is for a Spouse Settlement visa when applying outside of the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-flrm

All the financial information is to be completed on the FLR(M) form....not Appendix 2 FM

Thats what is confusing me. I guess the Appendix 2 FM is a red herring and a misunderstanding on my part as it is not needed. I think I may have been misinformed or failed to explain myself clearly when I asked the question a number of months ago.

Once my American partner and I are married (Fiance Visa is already issued) in Scotland we need to apply for FLR (M). We intend to lodge papers at the Premium Centre in Glasgow on the Monday following our wedding. With a bit of luck that date will be December 11. IF we can get an appointment on that date. We can not apply for an appointment until 45 days before so our online application for a date will be made on October 27 or 28.

The intention is to complete the FLR(M) and any other paperwork required. Print the paperwork, gather up the supporting documents required and attend the Premium Centre. We will obviously pay the necessary fees along the way. When should the Biometric appointment be made? We intend to do that at a Post Office.

Is all this correct? Will we need any other Govt application paperwork?

Apologied for the dumb questions but its a difficut process to get my head around.

Thanks for your continuing help.

[Casa]

Appendix 2 isn't required for FLR(M)

You can book an appointment and submit the application as soon as you are married. The confusion may be that appointment slots are generally only released onto the system 42 days in advance. However, there are often cancellations which appear and can be booked when they are become available.

Biometrics will be taken at the PSC on the day of the appointment and if the application is approved, the BRP will be sent in the post shortly after.

[FXR_1340]

Appendix 2 isn't required for FLR(M)

You can book an appointment and submit the application as soon as you are married. The confusion may be that appointment slots are generally only released onto the system 42 days in advance. However, there are often cancellations which appear and can be booked when they are become available.

Biometrics will be taken at the PSC on the day of the appointment and if the application is approved, the BRP will be sent in the post shortly after.

Must we wait until after the marriage ceremony before we can apply online for a PSC appointment? That is, the ceremony will not take place intil December. Can we book a PSC appointment online (say on October 28) for a date to attend after the ceremony? Or must we wait till after the ceremony before doing anything regarding a PSC appointment?

Again apologies for what is probably a daft question.

[Casa]

You can book the appointment to attend the PSC after the ceremony. Not daft at all...I had to double check before posting.

[FXR_1340]

You can book the appointment to attend the PSC after the ceremony. Not daft at all...I had to double check before posting.

Thanks.

Having to wait till after the ceremony puts a spanner in the works. We would like to get an appointment date set for PSC within days of our wedding. That doesnt happen unil December 9. I guess the chances of getting an appointment for 11 or 12 December will be pretty slim.

Oh well, we just need to wait till the ceremony is done before even looking at the website to book a PSC appointment.

Thank you again for your input and helping me to understand.

[Casa]

You've misunderstood and I can see that my post was confusing. You CAN book an appointment before you are married, to attend the PSC after the wedding.

Sorry if I've given you both a sleepless night!

[FXR_1340]

You've misunderstood and I can see that my post was confusing. You CAN book an appointment before you are married, to attend the PSC after the wedding.

Sorry if I've given you both a sleepless night!

Casa,

Thank you.

We are delighted and you delightful. Your apology is not necessary.

Your invaluable help is most appreciated