Leave Outside the Rules (LOTR)

[rockhall]

A friend was telling me about leave outside the rules. I would like to know if there is a way to apply for permission to enter the UK with regards to ‘Leave Outside the Rules’ (LOTR) to enter the UK. Can anyone help me this.

[Wanderer]

A friend was telling me about leave outside the rules. I would like to know if there is a way to apply for permission to enter the UK with regards to ‘Leave Outside the Rules’ (LOTR) to enter the UK. Can anyone help me this.

Isn't that for folks already here?

[rockhall]

Well Wanderer I just made a google search and tumble across a .pdf file http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binary and read that document in its entirety and found the section below, this is why I was wondering if this exists to enter as this part says "enter/remain"

CH1 SECT14 – LEAVE OUTSIDE THE RULES
1.2. Leave Outside the Immigration Rules
It has always been possible to grant someone limited or indefinite leave to
enter/remain outside the Immigration Rules.

[John]

Isn't it as simple as ...... they have discretion to grant leave although technically there is no such right if the Immigration Rules are read.

Rockhall, can you explain more what is behind your question?

[rockhall]

John, I was just interested in the subject and just wanted to learn about other people experiences

[Jeff Albright]

In practice it is extremely difficult to get LOTR. There should be compelling, truly exceptional and extraordinate circumstances which would drive decision in your favour overriding the normal provisions of the Immigration Rules that apply to all the foreign nationals going to the UK.

[John]

Jeff, that is right. The example I sometimes give is that someone is in the UK on a visitor visa, and they really should go back to their country to get the fiancée visa they desire ..... but they come from a small volcanic country .... and the volcano is currently erupting!

If such a person makes an in-UK outside-the-rules application for their fiancée visa, well they might just succeed. Those circumstances might just fit within the words, as Jeff says "compelling, truly exceptional and extraordinate circumstances".

[tasha75]

The example I sometimes give is that someone is in the UK on a visitor visa, and they really should go back to their country to get the fiancée visa they desire ..... but they come from a small volcanic country .... and the volcano is currently erupting!.

Nah, don't think it's a good enough reason for the HO. The volcano won't be erupting forever.
Anyway, I didn't know that the words "compelling, truly exceptional and extraordinate" still exist in the Home Office language. If they'd removed the poor woman from Ghana, who was dying from cancer, what chances do other have?

[rockhall]

The words "compelling, truly exceptional and extraordinate" might work only if they see that the individual might benefit the UK. As Tarsha said "The volcano won't be erupting forever" so they must find a reason not to grant LOTR.

[joe777]

when i was applying for ILR for my wife, and for my 18yr old stepson (he came to the uk just b4 he was 18 ), i was struggling to find which form and category to use for him, I asked IND and the local law centre, they told me, he app was outside immigration rules