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want to move to america

Post by charlotte » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:45 pm

hi everyone

im a 21 year old female and currently work in the uk as a day service support worker with adults with learning disabilties. i want to work and live in the usa and have given myself 3 1/2 years to sort this out, as i have to clear all my loans first. i know that in order for meto immagrate you have to be classed as professtional.
so any idea what is classed as professtional?
if there were any suggestions what i should do with this time?

thanks

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Post by Marco 72 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:44 pm

Work visas for the US are only for people with very specialist skills which are in short supply in the US. A degree is normally a must, unless you have several years' work experience. From what you write, it sounds like you are not eligible. See here.

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Re: want to move to america

Post by sakura » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:03 pm

charlotte wrote:hi everyone

im a 21 year old female and currently work in the uk as a day service support worker with adults with learning disabilties. i want to work and live in the usa and have given myself 3 1/2 years to sort this out, as i have to clear all my loans first. i know that in order for meto immagrate you have to be classed as professtional.
so any idea what is classed as professtional?
if there were any suggestions what i should do with this time?

thanks
Are you a graduate? Like what marco72 writes, moving to the US is hella tough without the right skills! I work for an American company here that offers preparation courses for doctors and nurses wishing to move to the US. Doctors have to take like 4 tests, nurses 1-2 tests! It is not easy; and many nurses fail and have to re-take.

I would say...if you really want to move there, try studying nursing, specifically nursing for elderly, or something like psychology with nursing (ok I'm making it up slightly, but something to do with looking after people with learning disabilities). That way you will be skilled, and the US is desperate for more nurses (and doctors), or people to work with patients with disabilities (i.e. specialists).

Since you're only 21 I'd say start now if you're that keen. You can even try gaining a scholarship to study there (a big foot in the door). My company also does training for US college admissions (so I know what I'm talking about!). It won't allow you to stay there for good, but if you manage to train well and get good experience (like voluntary work or something), it'll help you out in the long run.

If you are not a graduate or anything, then your opportunities are more or less nil. You probably won't even be able to get a summer job/Bunac job without being a graduate.

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Post by Administrator » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:40 pm

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This one is a bit of an esoteric long-shot, but it may be a possibility for you. It'd be a foot-in-the-door strategy :

J1 Au Pair Visa
http://www.workpermit.com/us/exchange_au_pair.htm

The thing is ...

1) you'd need some experience for child care (you've got 3 years to build that up on your CV)

2) someone would need to want to require you for the job (do you have skills in other languages? For example.)

3) children would have to be quite interesting for you

4) it is really a full-time job and then some, usually for low pay


BUT,

5) your specialist training in disabilities is a strength, a very significant one

6) it puts you in the U.S. where you can develop direct contacts

An Au Pair who can work with disabled/special needs children would be a rather rare commodity (in just about any country) ... IF this is something you would want to do.


Downside, is generally 12-months, although renewals are possible (especially with specialty skills).

Another, if you want to use this as a mechanism to leverage long-term / permanent residency, you'll need careful placement with a family that understands this clearly and is willing to work with you.


However,

sakura's suggestion about going the student route is excellent. You have enough time and resources to attempt getting into school, and that opens up a LOT of possibility. Experience, working with academics, DEVELOPING DOZENS OF CONTACTS that can then lead to job offers ....

Depending on your background, generating some sort of scholarship usually isn't too difficult, and there are quite a number of excellent state universities that are far more affordable than private institutions like Harvard.

You may be looking at $5,000 to $8,000 per semester for out of state tuition for some of the better state schools, and it can be lower for others that aren't so popular & need foreign students.

It's a balance between being a bit 'fussy' and available finances. Even small universities are quite good in the U.S. if you choose carefully. Some cities and regions aren't popular destinations and therefore have lower rates, but they may be a good match for what you want.

In your favor, the exchange rates right now (and for a year or two more, at least) are good from GBP to $$'s. You are the correct age for it. Also, universities around the world and especially in the U.S. are trying hard to attract foreign students .. largely for the larger tuition they pay.

But, there are grants and work-study opportunities to help with that. And, you know they 'want' you, so you can play it a bit cool during contact & negotiation and see if they are able to offer some incentives to help you.

Housing is one big one .. it tends to run more than tuition. Decent pay for work-study is another.

If you get into a British or EU university, you can go into an exchange program and get one or two semesters in the U.S. ... which will also get you that foot-in-the-door to leverage later on. Four or ten months of direct contacts in a university in a decent city (over 100,000 population, 400,000 or more is better) can make you a couple dozen friends, easily, who can be helping you from the States side of things.

The really cool thing is that you set yourself a three year or so planning range. That gives you a lot of options. Many people decide to go and then think they can do it next month some time.

Good luck!

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Post by Marco 72 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:52 am

The problem with the J1 visa route is that without a university degree it wouldn't lead to permanent residence (unless she married a US citizen in the meantime). It doesn't matter if people like her are badly needed in the US, the requirement is that one should either have a university degree or 12 years' work experience. Even if she was able to get a university degree, it would have to be one which is in high demand in the US (e.g. nursing). A degree in IT on the other hand would be pretty useless these days. Even with good grades, plenty of contacts and a job offer it would be tough to get a work visa. So if she wants to go down the student route she should do careful research to find out what to study first.

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Post by sakura » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:24 pm

Marco 72 wrote:The problem with the J1 visa route is that without a university degree it wouldn't lead to permanent residence (unless she married a US citizen in the meantime). It doesn't matter if people like her are badly needed in the US, the requirement is that one should either have a university degree or 12 years' work experience. Even if she was able to get a university degree, it would have to be one which is in high demand in the US (e.g. nursing). A degree in IT on the other hand would be pretty useless these days. Even with good grades, plenty of contacts and a job offer it would be tough to get a work visa. So if she wants to go down the student route she should do careful research to find out what to study first.
I know studying in the US doesn't confer PR, which I mentioned, but it is an option for her to 1. learn the culture and study in the system if she so plans to stay there afterwards 2. make some contacts. Especially if she does a medical degree - the system over there is different to elsewhere.

I specifically pointed out nursing or a medical-type degree because it is high demand and something you can get straight into, unlike IT (as you rightly point out) or a social science. Plus it seems related to what she's doing now.

Anyway - she hasn't even come back to check our posts so...

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Post by Marco 72 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:43 pm

sakura wrote:I know studying in the US doesn't confer PR, which I mentioned, but it is an option for her to 1. learn the culture and study in the system if she so plans to stay there afterwards 2. make some contacts. Especially if she does a medical degree - the system over there is different to elsewhere.
I was referring to the suggestion that she might use a J1 au pair visa. That would be hard to renew and wouldn't lead to PR. I actually do know someone who came to the US as an au pair and ended up with a green card, but in doing so broke the law a couple of times. She arrived in the US in her late teens on a 'working holiday' (babysitting). She travelled with a visa waiver, so this wasn't allowed. Luckily for her she didn't mention the babysitting part at immigration and they let her through. Her host family really liked her, so they "adopted" her by getting her to marry one of their sons, who was retarded. Then she adjusted status, got her green card, and went on to study at university.

I also know someone who used the student route. She was in her early thirties and travelled to the US on a J2 visa (wife of J1). Her husband was a university professor. While she was there she realised she didn't love her husband any more and decided to stay. She didn't speak English and had no degrees of any kind. She started a language course and when her English was good enough enrolled in a university course on an F1 visa. A few years later she graduated in IT and obtained a work visa very easily (luckily for her those were the late 1990's and almost everyone with an IT qualification got a work permit - unlike today). She later got a green card. However, this was only possible because she had money of her own which allowed her to pay her university fees, and even so she had to work very hard to support herself, both during the evenings and the weekends.

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Post by charlotte » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:52 pm

hi sorry havent checked the post lately thank you for replying it all usefull information i have descided to train in nursing for the next 3 years and go from their, the other problem i had was my partner would he be able to come with me, if so how

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Post by Marco 72 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:14 pm

charlotte wrote:hi sorry havent checked the post lately thank you for replying it all usefull information i have descided to train in nursing for the next 3 years and go from their, the other problem i had was my partner would he be able to come with me, if so how
If you are married to your partner it should not be a problem to get him a visa (however he won't be able to work until you get a green card).

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Post by sakura » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:54 pm

Marco 72 wrote:
charlotte wrote:hi sorry havent checked the post lately thank you for replying it all usefull information i have descided to train in nursing for the next 3 years and go from their, the other problem i had was my partner would he be able to come with me, if so how
If you are married to your partner it should not be a problem to get him a visa (however he won't be able to work until you get a green card).
Ouch! So you'll have to support him. Or, get him to train as a nurse, too? That way he can move with you (though I don't mean at exactly the same time) and can work straight away. What is (or will be) his profession?

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Post by charlotte » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:28 pm

sakura wrote:
Marco 72 wrote:
charlotte wrote:hi sorry havent checked the post lately thank you for replying it all usefull information i have descided to train in nursing for the next 3 years and go from their, the other problem i had was my partner would he be able to come with me, if so how
If you are married to your partner it should not be a problem to get him a visa (however he won't be able to work until you get a green card).
Ouch! So you'll have to support him. Or, get him to train as a nurse, too? That way he can move with you (though I don't mean at exactly the same time) and can work straight away. What is (or will be) his profession?
hi i was reading your responce and was a bit confused when you say not at the same time what do you mean

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Post by Administrator » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:56 pm

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You would each require work permits and visas and jobs independent of each other.

Unless you are married, one cannot claim the other as a dependent .. meaning you will each go through the visa process separately and upon your own merits, rather than attempting as a couple & being considered simultaneously as part of a single application process.

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Post by kdub » Sun May 04, 2008 3:10 am

im looking to study counselling psychology here in the uk, would the qualifications (degree, doctorate?) translate over in america? is it a job in demand?

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