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SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by wonderer98 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:13 pm

Hi.

The last page of Naturalisation form says
SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:
• payslips
• P60’s
• letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their
employment including start and finish dates
Two questions?
1. What is "relevant period". E.g. if I have PR do I just sumbit evidence for 5 years?
2. Will 1 letter from employer suffice, if I had worked for this one employer constantly for the past 6 years?

Many thanks!!

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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:51 pm

wonderer98 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:13 pm
Hi.

The last page of Naturalisation form says
SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:
• payslips
• P60’s
• letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their
employment including start and finish dates
Two questions?
1. What is "relevant period". E.g. if I have PR do I just sumbit evidence for 5 years?relevant period is up to 10 yeras working back from the date of the AN application - not to be confused with PR.
2. Will 1 letter from employer suffice, if I had worked for this one employer constantly for the past 6 years? YES - I had 1 letter for 10 years!

Many thanks!!
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by wonderer98 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:00 pm

I dont have all P60/payslips from each employer - would a letter suffice from each employer?

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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:46 pm

wonderer98 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:00 pm
I dont have all P60/payslips from each employer - would a letter suffice from each employer?
Employee letters are sufficient.
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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by wonderer98 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:45 pm

What if one of the employers have stopped traiding and I cannot contact them? :?: :?:

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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:46 pm

wonderer98 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:45 pm
What if one of the employers have stopped traiding and I cannot contact them? :?: :?:
In that case explain the reason(s) why you don't have documents.
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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by johnhkg » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:47 pm

wonderer98 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:13 pm
Hi.

The last page of Naturalisation form says
SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:
• payslips
• P60’s
• letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their
employment including start and finish dates
Two questions?
1. What is "relevant period". E.g. if I have PR do I just sumbit evidence for 5 years?
2. Will 1 letter from employer suffice, if I had worked for this one employer constantly for the past 6 years?

Many thanks!!
I thought I'd share my concerns on this very same subject. Yes, I read that Section 10 of the paper application form but I am almost completed my online application. Within the application there is a specifically generated list of required documents. In my case I have worked for past three years for two different companies. I am an employee and have a full National Insurance record for that time. But I have not been asked to provide any documentation for this. I suspect that as I have included my National Insurance Number within the application, UKVI will be able to "see" all of this information online.

Hope that helps.

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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by secret.simon » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 pm

johnhkg wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:47 pm
I thought I'd share my concerns on this very same subject. Yes, I read that Section 10 of the paper application form but I am almost completed my online application. Within the application there is a specifically generated list of required documents. In my case I have worked for past three years for two different companies. I am an employee and have a full National Insurance record for that time. But I have not been asked to provide any documentation for this. I suspect that as I have included my National Insurance Number within the application, UKVI will be able to "see" all of this information online.

Hope that helps.
Both EEA and non-EEA citizens have to meet the same requirements for naturalisation. But as EEA citizens do not have passport stamp proof, they have to provide alternate proof of residence in the UK.

The OP is an EEA citizen and hence does not have passport stamps to prove his residence in the UK. Therefore the requirement to provide payslips, etc.

As you appear to be a non-EEA citizen (based on the flag on your profile), your passport stamps provide proof of your residence in the UK. Therefore, the proof required for you is different.
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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by wonderer98 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:36 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:51 pm
wonderer98 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:13 pm
Hi.

The last page of Naturalisation form says
SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:
• payslips
• P60’s
• letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their
employment including start and finish dates
Two questions?
1. What is "relevant period". E.g. if I have PR do I just submit evidence for 5 years?relevant a period is up to 10 years working back from the date of the AN application - not to be confused with PR.
2. Will 1 letter from employer suffice, if I had worked for this one employer constantly for the past 6 years? YES - I had 1 letter for 10 years!

Many thanks!!
Hey alterhase58,

I think you might be wrong about the 10 years.
Guide, page 5, states: "Evidence of lawful residence during the 5 (or, if the applicant is married to or in civil
partnership to a British citizen, 3) years before the date of the application"
That what my friend has confirmed as well

I think 10 years of evidence of NI only applies if Home Office has a reason to mistrust you, as Guide page 7 states.

Also, the new online application does not even mention NI contributions.

Hope this helps someone!

What do you think?

Matt

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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:04 pm

wonderer98 wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:36 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:51 pm
wonderer98 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:13 pm
Hi.

The last page of Naturalisation form says
SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:
• payslips
• P60’s
• letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their
employment including start and finish dates
Two questions?
1. What is "relevant period". E.g. if I have PR do I just submit evidence for 5 years?relevant a period is up to 10 years working back from the date of the AN application - not to be confused with PR.
2. Will 1 letter from employer suffice, if I had worked for this one employer constantly for the past 6 years? YES - I had 1 letter for 10 years!

Many thanks!!
Hey alterhase58,

I think you might be wrong about the 10 years.
Guide, page 5, states: "Evidence of lawful residence during the 5 (or, if the applicant is married to or in civil
partnership to a British citizen, 3) years before the date of the application"
That what my friend has confirmed as well

I think 10 years of evidence of NI only applies if Home Office has a reason to mistrust you, as Guide page 7 states.

Also, the new online application does not even mention NI contributions.

Hope this helps someone!

What do you think?

Matt
Well I based this on my own application (paper via NCS) at the time - form asked for 10 years of employment history which I provided (just one employer) - never had any issue with NI. I think there was confusion around the term "relevant period" - sorry if I misled you - go with what the form asks for.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
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Re: SECTION 10 Evidence of National Insurance contributions covering the relevant period:

Post by wonderer98 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:55 am

No need to apologise, although its big of you. You are a great help to the community providing knowledge in those uncertain times. Thank you for all the help and I hope we all can provide clarity to this lengthy (& worthwhile) application process.

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