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Sponsoring second spouse visa generates more scrutiny

Post by Marry23 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:08 am

I have been married twice before. The first marriage ended in divorce and I never applied for her visa. I sponsored, my second wife and I believe she was granted entry clearance but she didn’t visited the UK. That marriage also ended up in divorce and I informed the Home Office.

My questions are:
1. if I get married again and sponsor my wife for UK visa, would her application generate more than usual scrutiny? (Both of the previous divorces were done following the appropriate legal process abroad and divorce certificates are recognised in the UK)
2. Providing evidence of having lived or travelled together is going to be difficult as usually we do Nikkah (legal marriage) first so that visa application can be made and once visa is granted then we have more ceremonies before starting to cohabit. Given the previous two marriages, would it make the application weaker if I do not enclose evidence of having travelled together or the ECR will doubt the genuineness of relationship? (Other evidence such as communication, financial dependence and photos together can be provided easily to proof that relationship is genuine and subsisting)

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Re: Sponsoring second spouse visa generates more scrutiny

Post by TODMATT » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:51 am

Marry23 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:08 am
I have been married twice before. The first marriage ended in divorce and I never applied for her visa. I sponsored, my second wife and I believe she was granted entry clearance but she didn’t visited the UK. That marriage also ended up in divorce and I informed the Home Office.

My questions are:
1. if I get married again and sponsor my wife for UK visa, would her application generate more than usual scrutiny? (Both of the previous divorces were done following the appropriate legal process abroad and divorce certificates are recognised in the UK)
2. Providing evidence of having lived or travelled together is going to be difficult as usually we do Nikkah (legal marriage) first so that visa application can be made and once visa is granted then we have more ceremonies before starting to cohabit. Given the previous two marriages, would it make the application weaker if I do not enclose evidence of having travelled together or the ECR will doubt the genuineness of relationship? (Other evidence such as communication, financial dependence and photos together can be provided easily to proof that relationship is genuine and subsisting)
1. Your application maybe scrutinized.
2. It is not mandatory for both of you to have lived together before marriage. The onus will be on the applicant to provide evidence of genuine and subsisting relationship. proof of cohabitation if both of you are not married.
My opinions should not be constituted as an immigration or legal advice.

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Re: Sponsoring second spouse visa generates more scrutiny

Post by Marry23 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:13 pm

Thanks for your reply. I understand that it is not necessary to have lived together, and onus is on the applicant to proof that the relationship is genuine and subsisting.

I can provide phone calls, messages, gift receipts and photographs together and financial dependence as evidence of a subsisting relationship. The problem is that I am not going to be able to provide evidence of having travelled together or holidays taken together. Is the evidence that I am able to provide sufficient to proof a subsisting relationship?

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Re: Sponsoring second spouse visa generates more scrutiny

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:13 pm

Marry23 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:13 pm
Thanks for your reply. I understand that it is not necessary to have lived together, and onus is on the applicant to proof that the relationship is genuine and subsisting.

I can provide phone calls, messages, gift receipts and photographs together and financial dependence as evidence of a subsisting relationship. The problem is that I am not going to be able to provide evidence of having travelled together or holidays taken together. Is the evidence that I am able to provide sufficient to proof a subsisting relationship?
The ones you mentioned are good enough as evidence of subsisting relationship. Have you traveled to see her? There is no requirement for evidence that you have travelled together or taken holidays together. If there is fine, if not you won't be penalized.

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Re: Sponsoring second spouse visa generates more scrutiny

Post by iwolga » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:22 pm

From my point of view, it is worth mentioning in your cover letter that though your ex wife#2 received Entry visa, she did not travel to UK and did not settle in UK due to problems in marriage (if that is the case, of course). This shall rule out the idea that your second marriage was for the purpose of obtaining UK visa.

At the end of the day, no one is interested in how many times you were married before as long as you can prove that you were not using the system to your own advantage.

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Re: Sponsoring second spouse visa generates more scrutiny

Post by TODMATT » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:02 pm

Marry23 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:13 pm
Thanks for your reply. I understand that it is not necessary to have lived together, and onus is on the applicant to proof that the relationship is genuine and subsisting.

I can provide phone calls, messages, gift receipts and photographs together and financial dependence as evidence of a subsisting relationship. The problem is that I am not going to be able to provide evidence of having travelled together or holidays taken together. Is the evidence that I am able to provide sufficient to proof a subsisting relationship?
The evidence you have should suffice.
My opinions should not be constituted as an immigration or legal advice.

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