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Mubashir1981 and Allmubashir1981 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:35 pmHi everyone i received final reply form ombadsman.
Your complaint about UK Visas and Immigration We have completed our consideration of your complaint about UK Visas and immigration (UKVI) and I am writing to tell you the outcome. To reach this decision we reviewed the information you have provided, and information provided by UKVI. Having done this, we have decided not to consider your complaint further; this is because we have not identified indications of failings in UKVI’s processing of your applications. I understand that our decision may be disappointing, but I will explain the reasons for this and the factors we have considered in our assessment of your complaint. Your complaint You complain UKVI has taken too long to make a decision on you and your family’s pre-settled status application, issued under the EU Settlement Scheme (EU Settlement Scheme). You say the application was submitted in August 2019. You say the delay has affected your ability to work and your ability to move to a new house. UKVI has also restricted you and your family’s freedom of movement. You say UKVI’s delay in reaching a decision has caused you and your wife stress, anxiety and depression. You would like an explanation as to why UKVI has not made a decision on your application.
Reasons for our decision You have complained that UKVI has taken too long to make a decision on you and your family’s pre-settled status application, issued under the EU Settlement Scheme. EU Settlement Scheme is a scheme set up for EU, EEA or Swiss citizens so they can continue to live in the UK after 30 June 2021. UKVI have said that as your application was based on a derivative right to reside in the UK, it has taken longer to process. You made this application as you are the primary carer of a British child. UKVI has explained that derivative rights applications were originally accommodated within the provisions of the EEA Regulations 20161 and were not included in the scope of the UK’s Withdrawal Agreement with the EU. However, the UK made a decision to widen the scope of the EU Settlement Scheme to now allow applications based on derived right of residence. UKVI has explained that these cases are often complex and therefore they can take longer to process. The relevant guidance says: ‘your application is likely to take longer than a month if…you submit a paper application- for example if your application is based on a derivative right to reside in the UK’2 It explained that the ethos of the Settlement Scheme is to ensure that every effort is undertaken to consider if status can be granted. Any refusal action is subject to considerable scrutiny prior to it being issued and this included seeking ministerial approval. UKVI noted that Ministerial approval on these types of applications was delayed due to prorogation of Parliament and the General Election. As such, cases did not begin to be refused until 5 February 2020. UKVI has said the initial consideration of your case indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route3. However, while the EU Settlement Scheme application was under consideration, you submitted a further application under the EEA Regulations on 3 December 2019. This was also made via the Zambrano route. The application was refused 27 January 2020 and you appealed against the decision on 2 February. The appeal overturned the decision. UKVI has explained that as all appeal proceedings have been concluded, the EU Settlement Scheme application is now in a position to be decided, once mandatory checks have been cleared.
UKVI has said that you should have a decision imminently. We have seen that you submitted an application under EU Settlement Scheme in August 2019 and UKVI guidance stated that this type of application can take over one month to process. This decision was delayed as initial checks indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route. These delays were caused by the prorogation of Parliament and the General Election. You then submitted a further application under the EEA Regulations, it is this application which was initially refused then overturned at tribunal. The second application was submitted on 3 December and was refused on 27 January. We do not find this time frame to be unreasonable. The Tribunal overturned the decision on 11 June and UKVI’s casework team confirmed on 22 June that they would not be seeking permission to appeal the decision. We are aware that UKVI are now currently completing mandatory checks and a decision will be made imminently. Whilst we do appreciate how distressing it has been for you, we have not identified any indications of failings in how UKVI processed your applications. We are also satisfied that UKVI has explained the reasons for the delays you have experienced. In summary, we have decided we will not take further action on your complaint. I hope I have explained the thorough consideration we have given to our decision and clearly outlined the reasons for it. If you have any feedback about our service or decision, then please let me know within one month of the date of this letter. We recognise that everyone has different needs and circumstances, and these are likely to influence the way you access our service. If you need this letter in a different format, please contact me on the details at the top of this letter to discuss your accessibility requirements. Please note there are some important details about how we use your information at the bottom of this letter. Yours sincerely
Caseworker
@Mubashir, You have nothing to worry about. Your settlement will arrive very very soon. Best of luck.mubashir1981 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:35 pmHi everyone i received final reply form ombadsman.
Your complaint about UK Visas and Immigration We have completed our consideration of your complaint about UK Visas and immigration (UKVI) and I am writing to tell you the outcome. To reach this decision we reviewed the information you have provided, and information provided by UKVI. Having done this, we have decided not to consider your complaint further; this is because we have not identified indications of failings in UKVI’s processing of your applications. I understand that our decision may be disappointing, but I will explain the reasons for this and the factors we have considered in our assessment of your complaint. Your complaint You complain UKVI has taken too long to make a decision on you and your family’s pre-settled status application, issued under the EU Settlement Scheme (EU Settlement Scheme). You say the application was submitted in August 2019. You say the delay has affected your ability to work and your ability to move to a new house. UKVI has also restricted you and your family’s freedom of movement. You say UKVI’s delay in reaching a decision has caused you and your wife stress, anxiety and depression. You would like an explanation as to why UKVI has not made a decision on your application.
Reasons for our decision You have complained that UKVI has taken too long to make a decision on you and your family’s pre-settled status application, issued under the EU Settlement Scheme. EU Settlement Scheme is a scheme set up for EU, EEA or Swiss citizens so they can continue to live in the UK after 30 June 2021. UKVI have said that as your application was based on a derivative right to reside in the UK, it has taken longer to process. You made this application as you are the primary carer of a British child. UKVI has explained that derivative rights applications were originally accommodated within the provisions of the EEA Regulations 20161 and were not included in the scope of the UK’s Withdrawal Agreement with the EU. However, the UK made a decision to widen the scope of the EU Settlement Scheme to now allow applications based on derived right of residence. UKVI has explained that these cases are often complex and therefore they can take longer to process. The relevant guidance says: ‘your application is likely to take longer than a month if…you submit a paper application- for example if your application is based on a derivative right to reside in the UK’2 It explained that the ethos of the Settlement Scheme is to ensure that every effort is undertaken to consider if status can be granted. Any refusal action is subject to considerable scrutiny prior to it being issued and this included seeking ministerial approval. UKVI noted that Ministerial approval on these types of applications was delayed due to prorogation of Parliament and the General Election. As such, cases did not begin to be refused until 5 February 2020. UKVI has said the initial consideration of your case indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route3. However, while the EU Settlement Scheme application was under consideration, you submitted a further application under the EEA Regulations on 3 December 2019. This was also made via the Zambrano route. The application was refused 27 January 2020 and you appealed against the decision on 2 February. The appeal overturned the decision. UKVI has explained that as all appeal proceedings have been concluded, the EU Settlement Scheme application is now in a position to be decided, once mandatory checks have been cleared.
UKVI has said that you should have a decision imminently. We have seen that you submitted an application under EU Settlement Scheme in August 2019 and UKVI guidance stated that this type of application can take over one month to process. This decision was delayed as initial checks indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route. These delays were caused by the prorogation of Parliament and the General Election. You then submitted a further application under the EEA Regulations, it is this application which was initially refused then overturned at tribunal. The second application was submitted on 3 December and was refused on 27 January. We do not find this time frame to be unreasonable. The Tribunal overturned the decision on 11 June and UKVI’s casework team confirmed on 22 June that they would not be seeking permission to appeal the decision. We are aware that UKVI are now currently completing mandatory checks and a decision will be made imminently. Whilst we do appreciate how distressing it has been for you, we have not identified any indications of failings in how UKVI processed your applications. We are also satisfied that UKVI has explained the reasons for the delays you have experienced. In summary, we have decided we will not take further action on your complaint. I hope I have explained the thorough consideration we have given to our decision and clearly outlined the reasons for it. If you have any feedback about our service or decision, then please let me know within one month of the date of this letter. We recognise that everyone has different needs and circumstances, and these are likely to influence the way you access our service. If you need this letter in a different format, please contact me on the details at the top of this letter to discuss your accessibility requirements. Please note there are some important details about how we use your information at the bottom of this letter. Yours sincerely
Caseworker
snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:57 pmBelow is the linkbwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:25 am@Spooky, Can you sent me the link of the form pleasebwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:17 pmsnooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:25 am
As you have waited for 10 months already, just know that decision is just seconds away.
EEA right is your initial right and you can choose to go for it. BRC under EEA and BRC under the settlement scheme dont overlap and you can choose to have both.
As you never had any leave before you applied for the settlement scheme, you stand a better chance of being successful if you read the HO guidance.
My problem is, since the introduction of Zambrano EU settlement scheme on 2 May 2019, I haven't seen anyone who has been given pre/settled status without first having EEA Derivative BRC.
So I will say Yes. Protect yourself before you're eliminated by substitution by the dodgie HO.
@Spooky.
Thank you so much for your help.
Thank you
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-drf1
snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:57 pmBelow is the linkbwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:25 am@Spooky, Can you sent me the link of the form pleasebwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:17 pmsnooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:25 am
As you have waited for 10 months already, just know that decision is just seconds away.
EEA right is your initial right and you can choose to go for it. BRC under EEA and BRC under the settlement scheme dont overlap and you can choose to have both.
As you never had any leave before you applied for the settlement scheme, you stand a better chance of being successful if you read the HO guidance.
My problem is, since the introduction of Zambrano EU settlement scheme on 2 May 2019, I haven't seen anyone who has been given pre/settled status without first having EEA Derivative BRC.
So I will say Yes. Protect yourself before you're eliminated by substitution by the dodgie HO.
@Spooky.
Thank you so much for your help.
Thank you
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-drf1
snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:57 pmBelow is the linkbwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:25 am@Spooky, Can you sent me the link of the form pleasebwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:17 pmsnooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:25 am
As you have waited for 10 months already, just know that decision is just seconds away.
EEA right is your initial right and you can choose to go for it. BRC under EEA and BRC under the settlement scheme dont overlap and you can choose to have both.
As you never had any leave before you applied for the settlement scheme, you stand a better chance of being successful if you read the HO guidance.
My problem is, since the introduction of Zambrano EU settlement scheme on 2 May 2019, I haven't seen anyone who has been given pre/settled status without first having EEA Derivative BRC.
So I will say Yes. Protect yourself before you're eliminated by substitution by the dodgie HO.
@Spooky.
Thank you so much for your help.
Thank you
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-drf1
Mubashir1981, thank you so much for sharing.mubashir1981 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:35 pmHi everyone i received final reply form ombadsman.
Your complaint about UK Visas and Immigration We have completed our consideration of your complaint about UK Visas and immigration (UKVI) and I am writing to tell you the outcome. To reach this decision we reviewed the information you have provided, and information provided by UKVI. Having done this, we have decided not to consider your complaint further; this is because we have not identified indications of failings in UKVI’s processing of your applications. I understand that our decision may be disappointing, but I will explain the reasons for this and the factors we have considered in our assessment of your complaint. Your complaint You complain UKVI has taken too long to make a decision on you and your family’s pre-settled status application, issued under the EU Settlement Scheme (EU Settlement Scheme). You say the application was submitted in August 2019. You say the delay has affected your ability to work and your ability to move to a new house. UKVI has also restricted you and your family’s freedom of movement. You say UKVI’s delay in reaching a decision has caused you and your wife stress, anxiety and depression. You would like an explanation as to why UKVI has not made a decision on your application.
Reasons for our decision You have complained that UKVI has taken too long to make a decision on you and your family’s pre-settled status application, issued under the EU Settlement Scheme. EU Settlement Scheme is a scheme set up for EU, EEA or Swiss citizens so they can continue to live in the UK after 30 June 2021. UKVI have said that as your application was based on a derivative right to reside in the UK, it has taken longer to process. You made this application as you are the primary carer of a British child. UKVI has explained that derivative rights applications were originally accommodated within the provisions of the EEA Regulations 20161 and were not included in the scope of the UK’s Withdrawal Agreement with the EU. However, the UK made a decision to widen the scope of the EU Settlement Scheme to now allow applications based on derived right of residence. UKVI has explained that these cases are often complex and therefore they can take longer to process. The relevant guidance says: ‘your application is likely to take longer than a month if…you submit a paper application- for example if your application is based on a derivative right to reside in the UK’2 It explained that the ethos of the Settlement Scheme is to ensure that every effort is undertaken to consider if status can be granted. Any refusal action is subject to considerable scrutiny prior to it being issued and this included seeking ministerial approval. UKVI noted that Ministerial approval on these types of applications was delayed due to prorogation of Parliament and the General Election. As such, cases did not begin to be refused until 5 February 2020. UKVI has said the initial consideration of your case indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route3. However, while the EU Settlement Scheme application was under consideration, you submitted a further application under the EEA Regulations on 3 December 2019. This was also made via the Zambrano route. The application was refused 27 January 2020 and you appealed against the decision on 2 February. The appeal overturned the decision. UKVI has explained that as all appeal proceedings have been concluded, the EU Settlement Scheme application is now in a position to be decided, once mandatory checks have been cleared.
UKVI has said that you should have a decision imminently. We have seen that you submitted an application under EU Settlement Scheme in August 2019 and UKVI guidance stated that this type of application can take over one month to process. This decision was delayed as initial checks indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route. These delays were caused by the prorogation of Parliament and the General Election. You then submitted a further application under the EEA Regulations, it is this application which was initially refused then overturned at tribunal. The second application was submitted on 3 December and was refused on 27 January. We do not find this time frame to be unreasonable. The Tribunal overturned the decision on 11 June and UKVI’s casework team confirmed on 22 June that they would not be seeking permission to appeal the decision. We are aware that UKVI are now currently completing mandatory checks and a decision will be made imminently. Whilst we do appreciate how distressing it has been for you, we have not identified any indications of failings in how UKVI processed your applications. We are also satisfied that UKVI has explained the reasons for the delays you have experienced. In summary, we have decided we will not take further action on your complaint. I hope I have explained the thorough consideration we have given to our decision and clearly outlined the reasons for it. If you have any feedback about our service or decision, then please let me know within one month of the date of this letter. We recognise that everyone has different needs and circumstances, and these are likely to influence the way you access our service. If you need this letter in a different format, please contact me on the details at the top of this letter to discuss your accessibility requirements. Please note there are some important details about how we use your information at the bottom of this letter. Yours sincerely
Caseworker
Thank you so much for your insights, Snooky. I really appreciate you taking the time to always inform and explain.snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:12 pm@All
Pieces from mubashir1981 Letter
This decision was delayed as initial checks indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route
The appeal overturned the decision. UKVI has explained that as all appeal proceedings have been concluded, the EU Settlement Scheme application is now in a position to be decided, once mandatory checks have been cleared.
The Tribunal overturned the decision on 11 June and UKVI’s casework team confirmed on 22 June that they would not be seeking permission to appeal the decision
UKVI has said the initial consideration of your case indicated that you did not fulfil the required criterial for the Zambrano route
The appeal overturned the decision. UKVI has explained that as all appeal proceedings have been concluded, the EU Settlement Scheme application is now in a position to be decided, once mandatory checks have been cleared.
The EU Settlement Scheme application is now in a position to be decided, once mandatory checks have been cleared.
UKVI has said that you should have a decision imminently.
This should encourage yall to bang in Drf1 application
Prettymum
Application made under the EU Settlement Scheme and the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016Spirit007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:31 pmHi guys,
Congratulations to all those who have received their long awaited good news and more power to the elbows of those waiting a decision on their case
My friend switched his long term residence ILR application to Zambrano EU Settlement scheme and also did a Zambrano EEA application. Though HO has confirmed both applications and progressing with them, they haven't issued him a refund for the application fees. Can you please advice how he can proceed in requesting for the refund. And is it a good idea to do so?
Thanks
Snooky, thanks for the prompt response.snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:17 pmApplication made under the EU Settlement Scheme and the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016Spirit007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:31 pmHi guys,
Congratulations to all those who have received their long awaited good news and more power to the elbows of those waiting a decision on their case
My friend switched his long term residence ILR application to Zambrano EU Settlement scheme and also did a Zambrano EEA application. Though HO has confirmed both applications and progressing with them, they haven't issued him a refund for the application fees. Can you please advice how he can proceed in requesting for the refund. And is it a good idea to do so?
Thanks
An applicant can hold status under the EU Settlement Scheme and a document under the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016. If an applicant applies under one while they have an application pending under the other, you must
process both applications and retain any fee that was paid for the application under the EEA Regulations.
Because these 2 application dont vary themselves or overlaps, HO will not cancel the any of it. They will process the two applications and if successful will issue you with 2 BRCs
Application pending under another part of the Immigration RulesSpirit007 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:26 amSnooky, thanks for the prompt response.snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:17 pmApplication made under the EU Settlement Scheme and the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016Spirit007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:31 pmHi guys,
Congratulations to all those who have received their long awaited good news and more power to the elbows of those waiting a decision on their case
My friend switched his long term residence ILR application to Zambrano EU Settlement scheme and also did a Zambrano EEA application. Though HO has confirmed both applications and progressing with them, they haven't issued him a refund for the application fees. Can you please advice how he can proceed in requesting for the refund. And is it a good idea to do so?
Thanks
An applicant can hold status under the EU Settlement Scheme and a document under the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016. If an applicant applies under one while they have an application pending under the other, you must
process both applications and retain any fee that was paid for the application under the EEA Regulations.
Because these 2 application dont vary themselves or overlaps, HO will not cancel the any of it. They will process the two applications and if successful will issue you with 2 BRCs
In this case, a fee was paid for ILR. When Zambrano EU scheme was made HO cancelled the ILR to remain application as they could not have two overlapping applications. Subsequently, following advice from the forum, a Zambrano EEA application was also made. I totally understand that Zambrano EU and EEA can go concurrently.
My question is, shouldn't they refund the fee made for the ILR application? If so, how does he proceed with requesting it?
Thank you for the response. I find it very useful, as my doubts have been put to rest.snooky wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:37 amApplication pending under another part of the Immigration RulesSpirit007 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:26 amSnooky, thanks for the prompt response.snooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:17 pmApplication made under the EU Settlement Scheme and the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016Spirit007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:31 pmHi guys,
Congratulations to all those who have received their long awaited good news and more power to the elbows of those waiting a decision on their case
My friend switched his long term residence ILR application to Zambrano EU Settlement scheme and also did a Zambrano EEA application. Though HO has confirmed both applications and progressing with them, they haven't issued him a refund for the application fees. Can you please advice how he can proceed in requesting for the refund. And is it a good idea to do so?
Thanks
An applicant can hold status under the EU Settlement Scheme and a document under the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016. If an applicant applies under one while they have an application pending under the other, you must
process both applications and retain any fee that was paid for the application under the EEA Regulations.
Because these 2 application dont vary themselves or overlaps, HO will not cancel the any of it. They will process the two applications and if successful will issue you with 2 BRCs
In this case, a fee was paid for ILR. When Zambrano EU scheme was made HO cancelled the ILR to remain application as they could not have two overlapping applications. Subsequently, following advice from the forum, a Zambrano EEA application was also made. I totally understand that Zambrano EU and EEA can go concurrently.
My question is, shouldn't they refund the fee made for the ILR application? If so, how does he proceed with requesting it?
If an applicant has an application for indefinite leave or limited leave pending under another part of the Immigration Rules and then makes an application under the scheme, the original application will be varied by the scheme application and must no longer be considered. You must refund any fee paid in respect of the original application. This does not apply if the original application is a claim for asylum or
humanitarian protection or otherwise based on human rights, in which case it must continue to be considered and where both applications fall to be granted, you must consult your senior caseworker who must consult the European Migration & Citizens’Rights Unit before either application is decided.
So HO will refund you. It normally takes 6 weeks and subject to 25% administrative charge
If you dont receive it, then make complain to the complainant department
Always willing to help. Thank you so much Snooky.snooky wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:34 am@Mubashir1981
This should be done after 11 July if you have not head or received your BRC and your cost
From: @gmail.com
To: Appealsfeesenquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk
Subject: EA/00000
Dear sirs,
I continue to act in the above matter. A direction on award of cost relating to fees was given. I can confirmed that since 11 June 2020, the receipt of the payment from the Home Office in the amount of £140.00 is still expecting.
As you have not chosen to appeal and have accepted to implement the Judge's promulgation, kindly make the payment as instructed by the court.
Yours sincerely
Write also to PDCU
Post Decision Casework Unit
Home Office
The Capital Building
Liverpool
L3 9PP
The PDCU are responsible to implement the Judge's promulgation.
The Economically Self-Sufficientbwunmi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:58 ambwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:36 pmsnooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:57 pmBelow is the link
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-drf1
@Spooky,thank you so much. I really appreciate it
Hi @Snooky.
Sorry to bother you please. I was reading through the form,it states An Eu self sufficient child. We are presently being supported by the social service(section 17). Do you think I can still apply for derivatives right if we are under the children services please?
I was thinking of putting in another Eu Settlement scheme application,this time would rely on my eldest child,who is in education. I'm scared the ongoing application is being delayed because my second child is not self sufficient and it might come out negative.
I need your advice please. Thank you
Hi Spooky,snooky wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:32 amThe Economically Self-Sufficientbwunmi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:58 ambwunmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:36 pmsnooky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:57 pm
Below is the link
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-drf1
@Spooky,thank you so much. I really appreciate it
Hi @Snooky.
Sorry to bother you please. I was reading through the form,it states An Eu self sufficient child. We are presently being supported by the social service(section 17). Do you think I can still apply for derivatives right if we are under the children services please?
I was thinking of putting in another Eu Settlement scheme application,this time would rely on my eldest child,who is in education. I'm scared the ongoing application is being delayed because my second child is not self sufficient and it might come out negative.
I need your advice please. Thank you
A self-sufficient person is someone who has enough money to pay for their living expenses without claiming benefits in the UK and who has comprehensive sickness insurance in the UK.
To be accepted as a self-sufficient person they must be able to show more than the maximum level of resources which a UK national and their family members can have in order to qualify for social assistance under the UK benefits system.
There is no requirement regarding the origin of the resources on the basis of which an EU citizen may be self-sufficient. To assess whether an EU national is self-sufficient in the UK, he or she only needs to show that there are sufficient resources available. This in turn means that the origin of the resources can equally be from employment of a spouse or other family member, a point made by the CJEU on several occasions (see, e.g., C-200/02 Chen [2004] ECR I-9525 and C-86/12 Alokpa 10 October 2013). Regulation 4(4) of the 2006 Regulations now confirms that an EEA national can qualify as self-sufficient based on the income of their non-EEA family member.
Based on regulation 16(2), 16(4) and 16(7) for Chen, Ibrahim/Teixeira it could be a bit of a problem.
The only way is if your social service assistance is saved in a different bank account by you and have enough funds in there; as you dont need to show where the funds are coming from.
Technically section 17 will affect you if you dont save the money given to you as subsistence.
If you have any family member too who is part of your household and works, that would be fine.
1. How many years did you live with your ex in ukbwunmi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:28 amHi Spooky,snooky wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:32 amThe Economically Self-Sufficientbwunmi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:58 am
Hi @Snooky.
Sorry to bother you please. I was reading through the form,it states An Eu self sufficient child. We are presently being supported by the social service(section 17). Do you think I can still apply for derivatives right if we are under the children services please?
I was thinking of putting in another Eu Settlement scheme application,this time would rely on my eldest child,who is in education. I'm scared the ongoing application is being delayed because my second child is not self sufficient and it might come out negative.
I need your advice please. Thank you
A self-sufficient person is someone who has enough money to pay for their living expenses without claiming benefits in the UK and who has comprehensive sickness insurance in the UK.
To be accepted as a self-sufficient person they must be able to show more than the maximum level of resources which a UK national and their family members can have in order to qualify for social assistance under the UK benefits system.
There is no requirement regarding the origin of the resources on the basis of which an EU citizen may be self-sufficient. To assess whether an EU national is self-sufficient in the UK, he or she only needs to show that there are sufficient resources available. This in turn means that the origin of the resources can equally be from employment of a spouse or other family member, a point made by the CJEU on several occasions (see, e.g., C-200/02 Chen [2004] ECR I-9525 and C-86/12 Alokpa 10 October 2013). Regulation 4(4) of the 2006 Regulations now confirms that an EEA national can qualify as self-sufficient based on the income of their non-EEA family member.
Based on regulation 16(2), 16(4) and 16(7) for Chen, Ibrahim/Teixeira it could be a bit of a problem.
The only way is if your social service assistance is saved in a different bank account by you and have enough funds in there; as you dont need to show where the funds are coming from.
Technically section 17 will affect you if you dont save the money given to you as subsistence.
If you have any family member too who is part of your household and works, that would be fine.
Thank you for the reply.
I don't have any family member leaving with me,only my children. My ex partner gives us feeding allowance. He is self employed but we don't leave together anymore.
What do you think my opinion is please?