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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:09 am

newuser79 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:48 pm
Hello again,

sorry one more quick query. on the consent form there are 3 pages part 1,2 and 3. It says other applicants should sign in part 2 and 3.

I am applying for SET(O) with my 2 dependents age 14 and 19. I have added my dependents on the same application as mine. I DID NOT MAKE A SEPERATE APPLICATION FORM FOR MY DEPENDENT CHILDREN AS WE ALL CAME TO UK IN THE SAME TIME

so do they have to sign or do i have to sign in all 3 pages of the consent form.

Note: I am not getting any money from anyone or no one is giving me any financial support. Neither do I have any representative or neither am I submitting any joint bank statements

please clarify seniors- I will wait for your answers before I submit my application.

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can one of the seniors confirm if my dependent children ( aged 19 and 14 ) who are part of my application need to sign part 2 and 3 of this declaration form?

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:11 pm

When you say you added your Child 18+ in the same form; do you mean you added the child in the same account but filled out a separate form OR you did NOT fill a separate form?

As far as I know Child 18+ has to fill his/her separate form but if the form gave you an option to add child 18+ in the same account, yes you can add him in the same account.

Each applicant has to sign his/own consent form. All parts needs to be signed in perspective of the applicant.

14 yr old child will not sign. Parent will sign on behalf of 14yr old child (Part 1-3 if needed signed by parent) but 19yr child will sign Part 1 and check if YOU need to sign Part 2 and Part 3 for 19yr old child.
For yourself you sign Part 1, and then Part 2 and Part 3 if needed.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:15 pm

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Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:11 pm
When you say you added your Child 18+ in the same form; do you mean you added the child in the same account but filled out a separate form OR you did NOT fill a separate form?

As far as I know Child 18+ has to fill his/her separate form but if the form gave you an option to add child 18+ in the same account, yes you can add him in the same account.

Each applicant has to sign his/own consent form. All parts needs to be signed in perspective of the applicant.

14 yr old child will not sign. Parent will sign on behalf of 14yr old child (Part 1-3 if needed signed by parent) but 19yr child will sign Part 1 and check if YOU need to sign Part 2 and Part 3 for 19yr old child.
For yourself you sign Part 1, and then Part 2 and Part 3 if needed.
Dear Cullinan,

I did not create a separate form. In my account after i filled my application as SET(O) it gave me the option to add additional applicant and I added both my dependents as additional applicants 1 and 2. ( It came as SET(O) child )

so in one account we have 3 applications. I am the main applicant and my 2 dependent children are additional applicants. ( aged 19 and 14 ).

so as you said since it gave me the option I assume I am ok to proceed and submit the application and pay online.

Can I proceed now?

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:30 pm

As long as you have filled separate forms in the same account, I think you are okay.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:43 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:30 pm
As long as you have filled separate forms in the same account, I think you are okay.
Thank you Cullinan. Yes I have filled 1 SET(O) application for me and added 2 applicants for SET(O) child from my account.

Thanks for confirming I am ok to proceed. I was really confused and thankfully you cleared my confusion in the last moment

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:59 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:11 pm
When you say you added your Child 18+ in the same form; do you mean you added the child in the same account but filled out a separate form OR you did NOT fill a separate form?

As far as I know Child 18+ has to fill his/her separate form but if the form gave you an option to add child 18+ in the same account, yes you can add him in the same account.

Each applicant has to sign his/own consent form. All parts needs to be signed in perspective of the applicant.

14 yr old child will not sign. Parent will sign on behalf of 14yr old child (Part 1-3 if needed signed by parent) but 19yr child will sign Part 1 and check if YOU need to sign Part 2 and Part 3 for 19yr old child.
For yourself you sign Part 1, and then Part 2 and Part 3 if needed.
Hello Cullinan,

I am sorry I am still confused. Since we are 3 applicants ( myself and 2 dependents ) I am planning to sign all 3 parts. Also ask my older dependent ( 19 yr ) to sign part 2 and 3 just to be on the safe side

Hope its ok?

or should both myself and my son sign part 1,2 and 3

final query before submitting?

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:04 pm

The consent form has 3 parts and self explanatory who has to sign which part.

Note each applicant has his/her own set of consent form (3 parts).

Applicant signs Part 1.
Part 2 and Part 3 have to be signed if applies.

Sign accordingly as stated above.

Start with yourself first. You will sign Part 1. Check if Part 2 and Part 3 applies for you.

Child 18+. He will sign Part 1. Check if YOU will sign Part 2 and Part 3 for him.

Child below 18: YOU will sign Part 1 on child’s behalf. Check if you need to sign Part 2 and Part 3 for child.

Hope it makes sense.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:50 pm

Very clear Cullinan!! Thank you again!

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Which application form for dependents

Post by newuser79 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:14 pm

Hi Seniors,

I am applying for ILR And submitting my application as soon as i get a reply for this query.

I came on a tier 2 visa with my 2 dependent children on 3 oct 2015. Now my children are aged 15 and 19.

On my set(o) form it gave me the option to add both my children ( aged 15 and aged 19) as an additional applicant. It says set(o) child. I did add them and completed the application with no issues

So i filled everything and about to submit the application and pay the fees approx £7300. Is that correct? Can i continue?

Problem and query:
Today i called a immigration solicitor 4 hours ago And he just texted me saying since one of my dependent child is above 18 he needs to apply on a different form separately and cannot be on the same application as me. This has made me worried and desperate for some expert advice as i dont want to end up losing fees and be refused

I also checked and it says 18+ dependents needs to apply separately.

Note: we entered the uk together and they both live with me and dependent on me. I am a single mother as my husband died few years ago.

Kindly can seniors help. Sorry for repeating the query as one gentleman said he believes its ok. But i am freaked out

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:05 am

Thats why I asked you about how did you add your 19 year old to your own account.

The drop down menu says child, does it later on specify child 18+ and the Tier 2 dependent category? I dont have the form in front of me so I can not check. If it does its okay.

If not, your 19 year old will have to fill in a separate form creating his OWN account. Choose Tier 2 dep category, then child 18+ and then mention main Tier 2 main applicant’s details as the form proceeds.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:13 am

Hi Cullinan,

The drop down menu says child, does it later on specify child 18+ and the Tier 2 dependent category? I dont have the form in front of me so I can not check. If it does its okay.

Answer:

The dropdown menu gives 2 options when you select add additional applicant. two options are dependent child and dependent partner.

I selected dependent child and clicked continue

then i need to answer questions about this applicant. there is no mention of tier 2 category or 18+ anything.

It just lets me fill in all details and proceed and finish my application.

Kindly clarify

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:21 am

I also made a new account for my 18+ son, registered and created a new account for him

then when i started filling the online application I got following queries

1- whose email is this - i selected applicant
2- do you have an immigration advisor- I selected no
3- In which category are you applying for indefinite leave to remain? I selected tier 2 dependent
4- Your relationship to your sponsor - 3 options. 1- partner, 2- child 18 or older 3 - child under 18. I selected option 2 - Child 18 or older
5- What is the name of the person with whom you want to remain in the UK? (Required)
This will be used to link your application with theirs

Answer - I provided my details , gave my passport details and hit continue

6- what is Mrs XXX current UK immigration status
Which visa is Mrs XXX applying for or been granted?

i selected Tier 2 General
then its asking for reference number. either VAF or GWF
I selected VAF and put the reference number for VAF

7- It then asked for my sponsor licence number - I entered this too

Then: when i clicked next i got the following options:

Applicant(s)

Once the questions for the main applicant have been completed, you will be able to add additional applicants to this application, such as a family member or dependant

Set (O)
The applicant
Not started
Answer questions about this applicant

NOW do I fill in details of myself or my 19 yr old son. All the queries are exactly same as what I filled for my own application.

I am very confused as to what is right

I hope and request senior members to clarify

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:10 am

newuser79 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:21 am
I also made a new account for my 18+ son, registered and created a new account for him

then when i started filling the online application I got following queries

1- whose email is this - i selected applicant
2- do you have an immigration advisor- I selected no
3- In which category are you applying for indefinite leave to remain? I selected tier 2 dependent
4- Your relationship to your sponsor - 3 options. 1- partner, 2- child 18 or older 3 - child under 18. I selected option 2 - Child 18 or older
5- What is the name of the person with whom you want to remain in the UK? (Required)
This will be used to link your application with theirs

Answer - I provided my details , gave my passport details and hit continue

6- what is Mrs XXX current UK immigration status
Which visa is Mrs XXX applying for or been granted?

i selected Tier 2 General
then its asking for reference number. either VAF or GWF
I selected VAF and put the reference number for VAF

7- It then asked for my sponsor licence number - I entered this too

Then: when i clicked next i got the following options:

Applicant(s)

Once the questions for the main applicant have been completed, you will be able to add additional applicants to this application, such as a family member or dependant

Set (O)
The applicant
Not started
Answer questions about this applicant

NOW do I fill in details of myself or my 19 yr old son. All the queries are exactly same as what I filled for my own application.

I am very confused as to what is right

I hope and request senior members to clarify

Thanks,
newuser79
This is the right way to do it. Note your child 18+ filling the form on his OWN is the main applicant with respect to the form. Do not confuse that with you being the sponsor (Tier 2 Main applicant). He is Tier 2 dependent but the main applicant filling out his own form. You chose all the right options this time. You do NOT have to fill in any additional applicants again in his account.

Just keep yourself and your child BELOW 18 in a separate account.

Just keep a separate account for your child 18+ like you did now. Dont get confused by the word “adding additional applicants” to his account.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:24 pm

Thank you Cullinan. You have been very helpful and kind to respond to me.

This forum is gold. I checked few weeks ago on this forum that myself and my 2 dependents ( 15 and 19 ) will be applying with me on the same application. I also received confirmation it was OK.

I was about to pay until i saw your reply yesterday that my 18+ son cant apply with me on the same application. so I am making sure before paying online

As per your reply:

I will ask my son to complete the new SET(O) form from his new account. He will put all his details and complete it

now I will have myself and my 15 yr old dependent in 1 application

my 19 yr old on his own separate application

how will UKVI relate our applications and give a decision. what will happen to our Biometrics, documents submission, etc.

Note: In my sons seperate application it doesnt ask for any of my documents as they are applying through me.

To add to my confusion the guy who advised me yesterday to say my 18+ son needs to make his own application- JUST CALLED ME AND SAID HE WAS WRONG AND THAT ALL MY DEPENDENTS IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR AGE CAN BE ADDED ON TO MY APPLICATION AS ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS.

he even said if it was not allowed the UKVI online application wouldnt allow you to do so when you put the date of birth of the person who was 18+

this is added to my troubles even more

I am lost!! I hope senior users or others who have applied with 18+ year old dependents could advise

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:31 pm

You did the right thing now. Relax.

Add yourself and your child below 18 in one account.

Your child 18+ creates his own account and fills the form as you clearly chose all the right options stated in your previous post.

His application will be linked to yours since you already provided YOUR details (Tier 2 sponsor) in his form also.
You can also add a cover letter if you wish with his application but its not needed.

Biometrics: You will be notified via your registered email for next steps for yourself and child below 18. Your child 18+ will get the notification on the email address he registered to create his own account.
Follow UKVCAS flash message for updates. For now system is not open for applications made on/after 15th Aug. You will be notified in a couple of weeks.

Nothing to worry.

Ignore the confused solicitor.

PS: your dependent’s application will ONlY be approved after yours is approved.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:35 pm

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Re: query on ILR Set O application form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:53 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:31 pm
You did the right thing now. Relax.

Add yourself and your child below 18 in one account.

Your child 18+ creates his own account and fills the form as you clearly chose all the right options stated in your previous post.

His application will be linked to yours since you already provided YOUR details (Tier 2 sponsor) in his form also.
You can also add a cover letter if you wish with his application but its not needed.

Biometrics: You will be notified via your registered email for next steps for yourself and child below 18. Your child 18+ will get the notification on the email address he registered to create his own account.
Follow UKVCAS flash message for updates. For now system is not open for applications made on/after 15th Aug. You will be notified in a couple of weeks.

Nothing to worry.

Ignore the confused solicitor.

PS: your dependent’s application will ONlY be approved after yours is approved.

Thank you Mr Cullinan. I will proceed with the application now

Now that i am making a new application for my son I have the following queries:

1- Do I have to provide proof for him that he is living with me for the last 5 years?

2- I am attaching his driving licence provisional, month of july 2020 bank statement, passports, biometric, letter from college dates in july 2020, water bill for aug 2020, some bank statements for year 2019, letter from HMRC for 2020 etc. is this enough?

3- do I need any documents as proof for years 2015,2016, 2017 and 2018?

4- Can I add/upload these documents to ukvcas until my bio metrics are over even after i make the payment and submit the application. I am asking this because I want to apply and pay today but i need another 2- 3 work days for all of my sons documents to be ready. we were not prepared with his documents as until this morning i wasnt sure I was making him a seperate application

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Re: query on ILR Set O application form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:54 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:35 pm
Follow similar case:

https://www.immigrationboards.com/indef ... l#p1927155

Thanks exactly similar case. I hope he will be ok too!!

I will post my experience after the outcome!! Thanks

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Re: query on ILR Set O application form

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:09 pm



Thank you Mr Cullinan. I will proceed with the application now

Now that i am making a new application for my son I have the following queries:

1- Do I have to provide proof for him that he is living with me for the last 5 years?

2- I am attaching his driving licence provisional, month of july 2020 bank statement, passports, biometric, letter from college dates in july 2020, water bill for aug 2020, some bank statements for year 2019, letter from HMRC for 2020 etc. is this enough?

3- do I need any documents as proof for years 2015,2016, 2017 and 2018?

4- Can I add/upload these documents to ukvcas until my bio metrics are over even after i make the payment and submit the application. I am asking this because I want to apply and pay today but i need another 2- 3 work days for all of my sons documents to be ready. we were not prepared with his documents as until this morning i wasnt sure I was making him a seperate application

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1) No
2) Perfect
3) No
4) You can upload anytime before biometrics so no rush.
Date of application is the date you pay and submit.

Also see:

319 J:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... -to-remain

319H-SD
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... nformation
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:35 pm

Thank you CULLINAN. Everything is now clear. I am glad I dont have to submit any documents for my 19 yr old dependent son from 2015 onwards until 2018. i am providing for 2019 and 2020

my 18+ old son lives with me and is unmarried and he got his visa with me and applying ILR with me

so I will submit bank statements for July 1st until 31st July for my son. His August statement will be out in 2 days online and I will attach that too

I will also send a front and back picture of his provisional driving licence

I assume this will satisfy the requirements of 319H-SD as they want 2 and I am providing 2

so I keep HMRC letter dates 4th Aug 2020 & water bill dated July 2020 aswell?

Thanks,
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319H-SD Specified documents and information

Applicants who are over the age of 16 on the date the application is made must provide the following specified documents and information:
(a) The applicant must provide two items from the list below confirming his residential address:
(i) bank statements,
(ii) credit card bills,
(iii) driving licence,
(iv) NHS Registration document,
(v) letter from his current school, college or university, on official headed paper and bearing the official stamp of that organisation, and issued by an authorised official of that organisation.
(b) The documents submitted must be from two separate sources and dated no more than one calendar month before the date of the application.

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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:41 pm

so I keep HMRC letter dates 4th Aug 2020 & water bill dated July 2020 aswell?
Yes you can if you wish.
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Re: query on ILR Set O applictaion form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:53 pm

perfect thank you !

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Re: Query on ILR Set O application form

Post by newuser79 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:51 pm

Hello Seniors,

Can one of the seniors clarify please. I know you are all busy- if some senior member or moderators can reply i will be very grateful

I am on Tier 2 general visa and applying for SET(O) with 2 of my dependents ( aged 15 and 19 ). Both dependents came with me to UK in 2015. They both live with me and dependent on me and are unmarried

Option 1:

I filled the SET(O) form for myself and completed successfully. It gave me the option to add my 2 dependent children on to the same application. so I went ahead and added 2 more applications for my dependents ( 15 yr old and 18+ child ). Is that ok? Can I proceed and make the payment? I checked with 2 immigration advisors and got mixed responses. One person said its ok and another person said NO

OR

Option 2:

Some senior members on this forum suggested I create a separate account and create a separate application under Tier 2 dependent category and apply ILR for my 19 year old dependent child as he is 18+.

https://staffimmigration.admin.ox.ac.uk ... pse1515876

The above link is from oxford university and it mentions 18+ old dependents needs to apply seperately

Query:

so my query is should I go with Option 1 or Option 2. which option is right? or are both options OK

Kindly let me know

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Re: query on ILR Set O application form

Post by newuser79 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 am

Hello Seniors,

could one of the seniors advise please? waiting for your reply

Thanks!!

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Re: query on ILR Set O application form

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:34 pm

newuser79 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 am
Hello Seniors,

could one of the seniors advise please? waiting for your reply

Thanks!!
Go through the link below

https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/child

See the options and criteria for Child over 18

Previous reply from CULLINAN(Respected Guru) pertinent You did the right thing now. Relax.

''Add yourself and your child below 18 in one account.

Your child 18+ creates his own account and fills the form as you clearly chose all the right options stated in your previous post.

His application will be linked to yours since you already provided YOUR details (Tier 2 sponsor) in his form also.
You can also add a cover letter if you wish with his application but its not needed.''

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