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Yes - GRO certificates are considered original. It doesn’t have to he the document issued at the time of the event.alexconnorbrown wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:05 pmHello, I'm pretty new to this, just had a few questions if anyone can answer.
I'm going to try to apply to the foreign birth registration through my grandparent (who was born on the Isle of Ireland).
When they say "original" documents for birth/death/marriage certificates of the grandparent, what is constitutes as "original"? I've ordered all of these documents through the General Register Office for Northern Ireland (where they were born) and the UK GRO (where they were married and died). Will these documents be accepted?
I was also making sure that when they say "Irish citizen parent" (my mother, who connects me to my grandfather), they simply mean the child of an Irish-born citizen. My mother was born in the UK.
Thank you in advance.
Thank you!Rbs3 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:39 amYes - GRO certificates are considered original. It doesn’t have to he the document issued at the time of the event.alexconnorbrown wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:05 pmHello, I'm pretty new to this, just had a few questions if anyone can answer.
I'm going to try to apply to the foreign birth registration through my grandparent (who was born on the Isle of Ireland).
When they say "original" documents for birth/death/marriage certificates of the grandparent, what is constitutes as "original"? I've ordered all of these documents through the General Register Office for Northern Ireland (where they were born) and the UK GRO (where they were married and died). Will these documents be accepted?
I was also making sure that when they say "Irish citizen parent" (my mother, who connects me to my grandfather), they simply mean the child of an Irish-born citizen. My mother was born in the UK.
Thank you in advance.
And yes - your mum is automatically Irish, being born to someone who was born on the island of Ireland. So your mum is your Irish citizen parent. For instance, your mum could get her passport without doing FBR because she is already Irish.
My documents were received on the same date! Fingers crossed it’s only a matter of days for me now! Keep refreshing my email hoping for good newsIrishNJUSAMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:59 pm
Hi Everyone,
I have been following and participating with this thread/group for some time and I finally have some good news, so I thought I would share my current status/timeline.
After 484 days, Or 1 year, 3 months, 26 days, Or after 15 months, 26 days I am excited to provide an update!!!
Timeline
FBR Application submitted on- line - May 19, 2019
FBR Application and Documents mailed from USA/NJ to Balbriggan, Ireland via USPS International Express May 20, 2019
Application received in Balbriggan email received - May 27,2019
Confirmation of Mailing address email received from FBR - September 21, 2020 at 3:10 am
Responded back to FBR Mailing Address email - September 21, 2020 at 3:43 am
Date added onto Foreign Birth Register - September 21, 2020
Congratulations FBR Approval email received - Sept 21,2020 at 7:36 am
FBR Certificate Printed/ Mailed email received - Pending
FBR Certificate received in USA/NJ - Pending
NEXT PHASE-INITIAL PAPER APPLICATION FOR PASSPORT
Applied for Passport via Paper (Initial) Application mailed all documents to Consulate General of Ireland in NYC/Park Ave - Pending
Passport form and docs sent from Consulate to Ireland - Pending
Passport and documents received in USA/NJ -Pending
Yes, Brexit and COVID-19 greatly affected the original 6 month processing time we were notified of during the application process and further a record of over 29,000 FBR applications were received in 2019. All of these challenges allowed FBR to streamline Operations, implement new systems and hire/train additional staff to support this process.
I am thankful for this group/thread as it allowed each and everyone one of us to communicate, question, learn and assist each other about the process as well as the availability to monitor the progress of FBR processing by sharing each of our experiences/application milestones and dates. I feel blessed and very thankful to all, We are the World and soon we will all be Irish Citizens too! I can't believe that I am now an Irish citizen, it will be realistic when that FBR certificate is in my hands.
Thank you all!
IrishNJUSAMan
BTW, I had a web chat with the FBR at 6:00 am this morning after I received/responded to the mailing address verification email, the representative mentioned to me that there is a 2 week backlog in the printing/mailing of the FBR Certificates and associated Original documents. Further, I was advised that the FBR Certificate and all Original documents will be returned in one package.
I did the same as you for my daughter, got her FBR certificate and it was sent back to Ireland for her passport application two days later (would have been the same day but we had to wait for our neighbour - who's a teacher - to be available to witness the documents) and I've been wondering exactly the same thing.LA8887 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:15 pmHas anyone had a passport application sent off and come back since they started processing FBR certificates again, and has some experience of turnaround times? I did my passport online application the day I got the address confirmation email and had the identification form witnessed and ready to go so put the certificate straight back in the post when it arrived and was told the estimated printing date would be the 8th September. Depending on which bit you read on the turnaround times website it says it'll take 20 working days, 6-8 weeks, or 365 days.
My passport tracker noted that they received my documents yesterday (I sent them on Friday). They estimate my passport will be issued on 20/10/20. Hope that's useful.Pipefish wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:16 pmI did the same as you for my daughter, got her FBR certificate and it was sent back to Ireland for her passport application two days later (would have been the same day but we had to wait for our neighbour - who's a teacher - to be available to witness the documents) and I've been wondering exactly the same thing.LA8887 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:15 pmHas anyone had a passport application sent off and come back since they started processing FBR certificates again, and has some experience of turnaround times? I did my passport online application the day I got the address confirmation email and had the identification form witnessed and ready to go so put the certificate straight back in the post when it arrived and was told the estimated printing date would be the 8th September. Depending on which bit you read on the turnaround times website it says it'll take 20 working days, 6-8 weeks, or 365 days.
I read it as the 365 days being for those who have to have appointments in person (as it's under that heading at the bottom) and regular online applications being 20 working days.
My documents were received two days ago according to the Royal Mail and An Post trackers. I'm just waiting for the passport application tracker to say they've been received!
Quick update: Mine has just changed to show an estimated issue date of 21/10/20.jamiepompey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:39 pmMy passport tracker noted that they received my documents yesterday (I sent them on Friday). They estimate my passport will be issued on 20/10/20. Hope that's useful.Pipefish wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:16 pmI did the same as you for my daughter, got her FBR certificate and it was sent back to Ireland for her passport application two days later (would have been the same day but we had to wait for our neighbour - who's a teacher - to be available to witness the documents) and I've been wondering exactly the same thing.LA8887 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:15 pmHas anyone had a passport application sent off and come back since they started processing FBR certificates again, and has some experience of turnaround times? I did my passport online application the day I got the address confirmation email and had the identification form witnessed and ready to go so put the certificate straight back in the post when it arrived and was told the estimated printing date would be the 8th September. Depending on which bit you read on the turnaround times website it says it'll take 20 working days, 6-8 weeks, or 365 days.
I read it as the 365 days being for those who have to have appointments in person (as it's under that heading at the bottom) and regular online applications being 20 working days.
My documents were received two days ago according to the Royal Mail and An Post trackers. I'm just waiting for the passport application tracker to say they've been received!
My estimated issue date was 8th September which I guess is 20 working days after it was received. I think I'm currently at 6½ weeks so hopefully it'll be printed in the next two weeks but I have no idea. I think I saw someone else say theirs took 3 months but I'm not if sure that involved any time the office was closedPipefish wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:41 pmQuick update: Mine has just changed to show an estimated issue date of 21/10/20.jamiepompey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:39 pmMy passport tracker noted that they received my documents yesterday (I sent them on Friday). They estimate my passport will be issued on 20/10/20. Hope that's useful.Pipefish wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:16 pmI did the same as you for my daughter, got her FBR certificate and it was sent back to Ireland for her passport application two days later (would have been the same day but we had to wait for our neighbour - who's a teacher - to be available to witness the documents) and I've been wondering exactly the same thing.LA8887 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:15 pmHas anyone had a passport application sent off and come back since they started processing FBR certificates again, and has some experience of turnaround times? I did my passport online application the day I got the address confirmation email and had the identification form witnessed and ready to go so put the certificate straight back in the post when it arrived and was told the estimated printing date would be the 8th September. Depending on which bit you read on the turnaround times website it says it'll take 20 working days, 6-8 weeks, or 365 days.
I read it as the 365 days being for those who have to have appointments in person (as it's under that heading at the bottom) and regular online applications being 20 working days.
My documents were received two days ago according to the Royal Mail and An Post trackers. I'm just waiting for the passport application tracker to say they've been received!
UPDATE from FBR on September 24,2020IrishNJUSAMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:59 pm
Hi Everyone,
I have been following and participating with this thread/group for some time and I finally have some good news, so I thought I would share my current status/timeline.
After 484 days, Or 1 year, 3 months, 26 days, Or after 15 months, 26 days I am excited to provide an update!!!
Timeline
FBR Application submitted on- line - May 19, 2019
FBR Application and Documents mailed from USA/NJ to Balbriggan, Ireland via USPS International Express May 20, 2019
Application received in Balbriggan email received - May 27,2019
Confirmation of Mailing address email received from FBR - September 21, 2020 at 3:10 am
Responded back to FBR Mailing Address email - September 21, 2020 at 3:43 am
Date added onto Foreign Birth Register - September 21, 2020
Congratulations FBR Approval email received - Sept 21,2020 at 7:36 am
FBR Certificate Printed/ Mailed email received - Pending
FBR Certificate received in USA/NJ - Pending
NEXT PHASE-INITIAL PAPER APPLICATION FOR PASSPORT
Applied for Passport via Paper (Initial) Application mailed all documents to Consulate General of Ireland in NYC/Park Ave - Pending
Passport form and docs sent from Consulate to Ireland - Pending
Passport and documents received in USA/NJ -Pending
Yes, Brexit and COVID-19 greatly affected the original 6 month processing time we were notified of during the application process and further a record of over 29,000 FBR applications were received in 2019. All of these challenges allowed FBR to streamline Operations, implement new systems and hire/train additional staff to support this process.
I am thankful for this group/thread as it allowed each and everyone one of us to communicate, question, learn and assist each other about the process as well as the availability to monitor the progress of FBR processing by sharing each of our experiences/application milestones and dates. I feel blessed and very thankful to all, We are the World and soon we will all be Irish Citizens too! I can't believe that I am now an Irish citizen, it will be realistic when that FBR certificate is in my hands.
Thank you all!
IrishNJUSAMan
BTW, I had a web chat with the FBR at 6:00 am this morning after I received/responded to the mailing address verification email, the representative mentioned to me that there is a 2 week backlog in the printing/mailing of the FBR Certificates and associated Original documents. Further, I was advised that the FBR Certificate and all Original documents will be returned in one package.
Were you an online or paper applicant? Hopefully you get it soon!LA8887 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:08 amMy estimated issue date was 8th September which I guess is 20 working days after it was received. I think I'm currently at 6½ weeks so hopefully it'll be printed in the next two weeks but I have no idea. I think I saw someone else say theirs took 3 months but I'm not if sure that involved any time the office was closedPipefish wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:41 pmQuick update: Mine has just changed to show an estimated issue date of 21/10/20.jamiepompey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:39 pmMy passport tracker noted that they received my documents yesterday (I sent them on Friday). They estimate my passport will be issued on 20/10/20. Hope that's useful.Pipefish wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:16 pm
I did the same as you for my daughter, got her FBR certificate and it was sent back to Ireland for her passport application two days later (would have been the same day but we had to wait for our neighbour - who's a teacher - to be available to witness the documents) and I've been wondering exactly the same thing.
I read it as the 365 days being for those who have to have appointments in person (as it's under that heading at the bottom) and regular online applications being 20 working days.
My documents were received two days ago according to the Royal Mail and An Post trackers. I'm just waiting for the passport application tracker to say they've been received!
My documents were received a week or so before you and I’ve just got the email through now - hopefully for you within the next couple of weeks you’ll hear!merseygrit wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:42 pmApplied online: 27th May 2019
Documents received: 4th June 2019
Still waiting after about 16 months (24th September 2020)
My grandparent, who I'm claiming nationality through, didn't have their birth registered (1880's) - so it will be more complex.
Had a web chat today and was told it was with a checking officer, with no indication of how much longer it would be - they will contact me if needed.
I was in the same boat as you - Grandparent's birth not registered. I did some research and spoke to various Govt departments and I had to do the following:merseygrit wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:42 pmApplied online: 27th May 2019
Documents received: 4th June 2019
Still waiting after about 16 months (24th September 2020)
My grandparent, who I'm claiming nationality through, didn't have their birth registered (1880's) - so it will be more complex.
Had a web chat today and was told it was with a checking officer, with no indication of how much longer it would be - they will contact me if needed.
