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Re-apply for EUSS Family permit after 1st application was refused

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Hi everyone,

On the 18 July, I applied for a EUSS family permit for my brother-in-law on behalf of my sister (EU national sponsor) just after a couple of weeks they got married over over Zoom, a video conference due to COVID risks and travels restrictions, after taking advice from a solicitor who said that telephone marriage is a genuine marriage and that is recognized in the UK.

A week later, I received the refusal later stating the following :
"Reasons for Refusal
On the 18 July 2020, you made an application for an EU Settlement Scheme (EUSS)
Family Permit under Appendix EU (Family Permit) to the Immigration Rules on the basis
you are a 'family member of a relevant EEA citizen'.
I have considered whether you meet the validity, eligibility, and suitability requirements
for a EUSS Family Permit, which are set out in Appendix EU (Family Permit) to the
Immigration Rules (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... milypermit). You can also find out more about the requirements in the guidance on GOV.UK
(https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/eu-set ... ily-permit).
You have stated that the family relationship of the EEA citizen sponsor to yourself is
a spouse. As evidence of this relationship, you have provided a Nikah Nama certificate as
well as a Bangladeshi Marriage Certificate along with photos of the ceremony itself.
However, it is noted that in your application form that your wedding ceremony was
completed over Zoom, a video conference application with your sponsor in the UK and
yourself in Bangladesh. This means that your wedding was a proxy wedding. As such,
this Department would expect to see a letter from the Bangladeshi authorities stating
that your wedding was a proxy marriage and was completed in accordance with the
proxy laws in Bangladesh.
As you have not provided any such letter, I am not satisfied, based on the evidence you
have provided in isolation, that you are a 'family member of a relevant EEA Citizen'.
Your application is refused. "

So I consulted a barrister and that said the proxy marriage isn't recognized/accepted in Bangladesh and in the UK but it is a common practice in Bangladesh. The barrister advised my sister to go to Bangladesh and get married there.
She followed the advice and got married recently. And now, she would like to apply again for the EUSS family permit for her husband.

My sister is a full-time university student with settled status (under the EUSS), she still lives with her parents (in the UK) but once her husband would come to the UK they would move out on their own. I am not sure if this matter but the marriage was an arranged marriage but again it this a very common in Bangladesh and the asiatic countries.

Looking for any advice on the matter, thanks.

PS: Regarding the proxy marriage, would she require an annulment or anything that shows marriage isn't valid anymore. And what additional documents would she need to provide in order to support the application?

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EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:21 pm

Hello everyone,

I have a couple of questions regarding the EUSS family permit.
My first EUSS family permit application was unsuccessful because my marriage was not legally recognized as it was a proxy marriage. Therefore I traveled back to Bangladesh and married my husband, and now we are legally married.

I am an EU national with settled status under the EU settlement scheme and I live and study in the UK and my husband is Bangladeshi (non-EU national).

I would like to reapply for the EUSS family permit for my husband but I confused about whether I have to explain why my first application was refused or not, and what supporting documents do I have to provide to support my husband's euss family permit?.
In the application, they mention only: my husband's National ID, Passport, and proof of relationship (marriage certificated).

Looking forward to hearing your opinions and advice.

Thanks in advance

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by Zerubbabel » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 pm

Hello

Could you please clarify how did she marry twice to the same guy?

I count once over Zoom with the emission of a marriage certificate then a second time in Bangladesh.

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:46 pm

Zerubbabel wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 pm
Hello

Could you please clarify how did she marry twice to the same guy?

I count once over Zoom with the emission of a marriage certificate then a second time in Bangladesh.
Yes, once through a proxy marriage over Zoom (due to covid travel restrictions) with the emission of a marriage certificate in July which wasn't legally recognized in the UK or in Bangladesh as there are no proxy marriage laws in Bangladesh but as per Islamic Rules, it is not illegal. According to the Muslim Marriages and Divorces(Registration), Act’1974 proxy marriage is not legal in Bangladesh although it is practiced as a custom in the society.
So then I traveled to Bangladesh in September and married my husband in compliance with the Muslim Marriages and Divorces (Registration) Act 1974 as well as the Muslim Family Laws Ordinance,1961.

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:54 pm

Both marriage certificates were issued in Bangladesh.

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by Zerubbabel » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:22 pm

The first marriage through Zoom wasn't even recognised in Bangladesh but they still "helped you" but issuing a marriage certificate in due form.

I am originally from a country with a "flexible administration". Even if it's gotten harder these times, if you know someone who works there or if you are willing to gift them some £££, they are more than happy to go an extra-mile for you.

So you managed to get a proper marriage certificate for a marriage that happened over Zoom then you went to share that with the Home Office. They knew you shouldn't get that document for a marriage over Zoom. So they refused your application.

You then went to Bangladesh in September and got married again. Did you get a new marriage certificate there? I mean a new certificate dated September?

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:09 pm

Well, I filed a report on the office that conducted the wedding ceremony and issued the first marriage certificate as they should have told us about proxy marriage is not legally recognized in Bangladesh.
So I was able to marry my husband in person in September as the first marriage certificate was invalid and not legally recognized. The marriage office issued a new marriage certificate and letter statement where they say as the first marriage in July was not legally valid therefore my husband and I were able to marry again and this time the marriage was in compliance with Bangladesh laws.

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by Zerubbabel » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:35 pm

Try to apply again now. That's the only thing you can do to move forward.

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:54 pm

Should explain why my application was refused the first time?

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:09 pm

mxm1mxm2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:54 pm
Should explain why my application was refused the first time?
Should I explain why my application was refused the first time?
Do you recommend any additional documents to be submitted?
Last time I have submitted:
> My passport
> My University letter
> My Student Finance letter
> My Settle Status letter
> My proof of address
> My chat and phone call history between me and my husband
> The marriage certificate along with marriage photos
> My NHS registration letter
>My husband passport
>His last 6 months bank statement
>His TB test
>His National ID
> His Police Clearance certificate

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Re: EUSS Family Permit

Post by mxm1mxm2 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:42 pm

The application was approved just in 3 weeks - 2nd-time application success after the first one was refused.

As the proxy marriage was not legally binding therefore the 2nd time in-person marriage was accepted.

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